Posts by snakeface

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

snakeface

Yes Perry, that was really why I left. Like the girl in the country song "she left the suds in the bucket and the clothes hanging out on the line," once I had this realization, I was gone!

Sort of like that scene in the Wizard of Oz when everyone is before the wizard, trembling before the great and powerful oz....their destiny is in his hands....until Toto pulls back the curtain and INSTANTLY everyone sees it has been a sham all along.

I had no real complaints about the elders or the circuit overseers or even the meetings. And I did not realize the teachings were wrong until years after I left. It was this one thing that woke me up. Jesus said "where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, I am there." So who are these men in Brooklyn who claim to be the ones through whom Jesus deals with the very ones He died for?

There are many Bible accounts of persons (including non-Jews) coming directly to Jesus to for healing. He dealt with them directly. He did not send any of them to the apostles. God dealt with many persons directly, not through an organization. Job, Abraham, Samuel, Moses, Noah, the apostle Paul...even Cain! Cain did not have to go to a judicial committee. Neither did Ananias and Sapphira. I could go on and on.

The truth is, most JWs are good, sincere people who are mislead. But they are mislead because they are spiritually lazy, content with blindly following rather than being like the Berean Jews who "examined the scriptures daily" to make sure these things are so. The first century Christians used ONLY the Bible (scrolls). They did not use other 'publications" to explain the scrolls.

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

snakeface

ha ha that's funny, Slave4_38y. Maybe eventually I'll be one of the 144,000. ha ha

What will happen now in my former "territory" is, as the JWs go door to door, householders will tell them they met one of their former members who explained to them many WT falsehoods, such as the fact that the "faithful and discreet slave" was only a parable, not a prophecy.

Miles, I do have a life. I do go golfing, fishing, karaoke, flying small planes, shooting firearms, volunteer work....all kinds of things. And now I will start writing a book. As for my door to door work, the fact that I was well received shows that I am not doing "what people hated us for". I am doing what they obviously are happy to hear. They hated JWs for coming to them with WT doctrines, telling them their religions are false, and for waking them up early on Saturday mornings. I have no need to tell others what they should do or should not do - because I have moved on and I focus on what I myself should do or not do.

I am not bitter. My 25 years as a JW were mostly happy years and following that way of life really was a protection for me. Through my late 20's, my 30's and 40's, I did not get involved in immorality, drugs, materialism, drunkenness/partying and the like. The JW life taught me to be considerate of others, to be honest, and to live a clean life. In my book I will mention that I am actually grateful for how those 25 years shaped me. In the big picture, it was good for me. The problem was the false doctrines, and I left when I realized the governing body set themselves up as a mediator between Christ and man, which of course is wrong.

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

snakeface

UPDATE!!!!

I have been having a blast! Pretty much every house I've been to so far, the people are happy that I got out of the cult. Because of this "pioneering" I have opportunities to speak at churches about this cult. One pastor urged me to write a book and his church will finance it. I never knew "pioneering" could be so much fun! ha ha ha

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

snakeface

Thanks for your answers, They do make sense to me. The indifference and apathy...I understand.

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

snakeface

We know that some householders are now reading the WT literature, maybe even studying.

Also, this will show householders that there is at least one JW who woke up and left. I'm sure they will be glad for my sake. I know my coworkers are.

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

snakeface

Yes, you heard right.

As you know, most Christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message. Well they also make some that expose the lies of the WT, and explain how it is a cult. Even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the WT as a cult.

Now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what I plan to do...

I am expecting to receive $$ for Christmas. To celebrate that my car's odometer turned 144,000 miles, I will use a good portion of the Christmas $$ to purchase 100's of these tracts and then I will put on a dress shirt, tie and dress slacks and personally go door-to-door in my former territory and "work" the very same houses as I previously did. To keep my time going I will also leave some tracts at laundromats, doctors' waiting rooms, gas pumps, phone booths.....I will be "zealous".

I wiill explain to the householders that my conscience has moved me to warn them, so they don't get sucked in like I did. I will give the householders my real name.

As my former congregation works their territory, eventually they will encounter some householders who will tell them about - and possibly show them - what I left with them. Can you imagine being a JW and going out in service, and EVERY house has already been contacted with one of these tracts?

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Purging and letting go of the past

by Skinnedsheep in

my wife and i decided that today would be the day that we would let go of the past.

we collected all of our watchtower published books and brochures and threw them out.

it was honestly bitter sweet to toss our old pioneer books, marked up insight books, and notes from 25 years of conventions.

snakeface

That's great! Now you are FREE! I like that you got rid of even the meeting clothing. It's a healing process.

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Do you pay for air for your tires at your gas station?

by jam in

jw
friends

this was on the news this morning.

when you buy gas air is part .

of the service, it should be free.

snakeface

Sevral years ago I bought a small compressor for about $20 in Walmart, which plugs into the car's power port. I keep it in the trunk and use it to fill my tires right at home. I've also used it to help otehr motorists. I recommend these small compressors.

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Found my old baptism photo!

by nicolaou in

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snakeface

I got baptized in 1981. At that time I and most other brothers wore "squarecut" swimsuits and were shirtless. It was common for sisters to wear bathing suits. Everyone would run to view the baptisims....because we wanted to see.

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stupid statement in watchtower about appointments of elders

by hoser in

after going through all the processes of how they appointed elders in the past they say this:.

"the elders in turn would inform the newly appointed men of their appointment, asking them if they were willing and actually qualified to accept the assignment.

so after qualifying the man you ask him if he is qualified.. .

snakeface

I remember, it was common practice for the elders to meet together and "recommend" a brother for appointment, without that brother's knowledge. The elders would have the circuit overseer sign the letter, which would be sent to the society. Then the society would send a letter back saying that they have appointed the particualr brother. After that, an elder would apporach the brother to say he has been appointed, is it OK for them to announce it at this meeting or is there any reason he cannot serve.

That's how it worked in my own case too, except that I knew that the elders and circuit overseer had sent in the letter; they had told me so.

Therefore, a few weeks after the circuit overseer visit when one elder approached me this way, saying that I had been appointed and asking if there was any reason I would be unable or unqualified to serve. (Of course I said No.) I took it to mean, "Are there any disqualifying factors that may have been overlooked," or, "Has anything in your life changed since we drafted the letter to the society that would disqualify you?"

However, if something had been overlooked, or changed, would the holy spirit notice anyway? Duh!