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Federal Agency Says Aviation Concepts Fired Jehovahs Witness for Not Raising Flags

by Bangalore in

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federal agency says aviation concepts fired jehovah's witness for not raising flags.. http://thejobmouse.com/2012/04/04/federal-agency-says-aviation-concepts-fired-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witness-for-not-raising-flags/.

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snakeface

And I bet this very same "steadfast in the faith" employee was always so quick to accept his Christmas bonus every year!

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Federal Agency Says Aviation Concepts Fired Jehovahs Witness for Not Raising Flags

by Bangalore in

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federal agency says aviation concepts fired jehovah's witness for not raising flags.. http://thejobmouse.com/2012/04/04/federal-agency-says-aviation-concepts-fired-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witness-for-not-raising-flags/.

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snakeface

This is another example of a witness who is so brainwashed, he cannot think for himself. So many live in constant fear of being caught for the slightest transgression, and then being disfellowshipped. Reminds me of a line in the song, "The Rose": the soul afraid of dying, that never learns to live. Obviously because they are taught that the god who has "allowed wickedness" to go on will certainly destroy them at Armageddon for putting up the flag or for respectfully addressing a priest who has been helping their Catholic relative as "Father" or doing any other normal things the rest of human society does.

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Federal Agency Says Aviation Concepts Fired Jehovahs Witness for Not Raising Flags

by Bangalore in

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federal agency says aviation concepts fired jehovah's witness for not raising flags.. http://thejobmouse.com/2012/04/04/federal-agency-says-aviation-concepts-fired-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witness-for-not-raising-flags/.

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snakeface

I'm pretty sure the outcome of this hinges upon whether or not that was part of his regular job duties.

For example, at one time (as a JW) I had an evening job in a small hotel on the beach. I woprked at the front desk but one of my responsibilities was to walk around the pool area and bldg just before sunset (since the mainenance man would have left by then) and make sure all the lights were coming on, for the pool, the pool deck, parking lot and so on. If not on I could simply check the circuit breakers or timers and flip them on. If there was a problem I could call the mantenance man to come back. During the holidays, Christmas lights were put up. So, during that season I would also have to flip a few extra switches as I made my rounds, to turn on the Christmas lights. I did not consider that as "participating" in the holidays, so I went ahead and included that in my routine. However, if I had been asked to help put up the lights or to decorate the tree in the lobby, that would have been different, because it was never part of my job to change any lightbulbs or hang any signs. My main job was at the front desk.

The WT used the example of a witness who works at a cashier in a store that sells many items. If a customer comes thru the line with many items, and among those items is a pkg of cigarettes, that witness could in good conscience ring up the cigarettes along with the other items. (we can add to this illustrations a JW who is a Walmart cashier and a customer is buying holiday items or birthday cards.) However it would not be appropriate for the witness to work in a store that sells only cigarettes and related items (a tobacco shop).

What if a JW sister had a job cleaning houses for worldly people - as many do - and one of her duties was to dust all the knick knacks on the shelves and tables. The one day the householder adds a religious statue or a Santa Claus figure. Would the witness dust everything in the house except that one item?

So if this man's job as a mechanic included tasks such as sweeping the tarmac, turning on outside lights, raising and lowering the flag each day, that should be addressed when applying for the job. If he accepted the job on the condition that this was one of his responsibilities, then he is in the wrong. However, if he had never been asked to handle the flag before, all the time he had worked there, and the boss suddenly wants him to do it - knowing that the employee had previously explained his beliefs - then the boss was wrong.

However, in the big picture, the employee should be "reasonable". What if the boss had asked him to put up a flag or sign that was for advertising, or that said, "Now Open" or something like that. He would have done it. So, putting up the national flag wouldn't requrie any more effort than that. He would be just hanging up something for other people to see. He himself would not be worshipping it or saluting it.

I think some witnesses just use this non-participation thing as a way to become a martyr unnecessarily, thinking they'll earn brownie points with the organization.

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I got my Memorial invitation

by Juan Viejo2 in

i just got my invitation!

yeah!!!!.

no one knocked on my door.

snakeface

I got mine too!

I used to be very prominent in the organization, always on the platform, giving public talks and so on. Then one day almost 5 years ago I just never showed up anymore. In fact I had some kind of assignment but I just did not show up. No one called, no one came to the house. I think they figured it out right away, knowing my personality. Anyway, yesterday in the mail there was an envelope from an elder and his wife, my age...they were always the nicest and most genuine people in the congregation. The envelope was hand-written. Had it been from anyone else I would have just pitched it, but since it was from them I thought I'd open it. I figured it would be a Memorial invite and a tract.

Well, it was a Memorial invite, and a magazine folded up, but open to an article inviting those who have strayed away to return. I guess the WT wants to try to pull our heart strings or something. Anything to increase attendance. Anyway, I didn't look at that. I just wanted to read the hand-written letter. The letter was real syrupy - it went on about how much everyone misses me, how they appreciate all the things I used to do in the congregation, they would love to see me, notice this article blah blah blah. What hypocrites!

I think I will wait until the day after the Memorial, then write them a real nice letter on nice stationery...first perhaps saying something positive but genuine about them...maybe saying I remember the many things they did in the congregation (and then I'd name specific things) and am glad they are doing well. And then I'll tell them I had already had plans on Memorial night - maybe a Civil Air Patrol meeting, or choir rehearsal at church - something that would get their attention and indicate I no longer consider myself one of them. I'll mention some of the things I do that keep me "very busy" which is why I don't have time to talk on the phone (in case they're thinking of calling): Angel Flights (they know I'm a pilot), animal rescue flights, helping with fundraisers for the Civil Air Patrol cadets and for the Young Eagles, ongoing education, church activities, and so on. Then I'll conclude by saying I didn't expect to hear from them because normally if people have not bothered with someone for several years, it's considered good etiquette not to contact them again.

That's a very tactful way of saying "No one needs to miss me because they have nice people like you to take over. I have moved on and have no intention of keeping in touch with any of you."

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What does your profile name say about you?

by usualusername in

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i use usualusername as i am not creative enough to think of anything sexier.... .

what significance is there behind your profile name?.

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snakeface

When I was very new in the organization there was a group of boys who, instead of paying attention to the meetings, would be making fun of everyone present. They were discreetly giving each other the finger and making faces, daring each other to do stuff such as ask an elder if he wears a bra and panties.... They'd make up names for different people...things like Buffalo Butt, Tuba Titties...a bald man was Chrome Dome, a kid with braces was Tin Grin...usual kid stuff. I heard them trying to think of a name for me with Satan in it, like Satan Face or something like that. When they realized I had been listening they called me snake face, with snake apparently referring to Satan. I guess there was an illustration of Satan in one of the publications and these boys thought it looked like me. I thought it was funny.

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Door Signs to Prevent Certain Knocks

by Patty Cake in

i have not put either of these on my apartment door, yet (amazingly, no jw's knocks here), but thought i'd share these signs i made.

sorry they're fussy, didn't want to upload huge images.. .

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snakeface

I have actually seen small signs on some houses that said, "No Jehovah's Witnesses". We treated them as a Do Not Call; we'd simply leave ASAP.

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Remarrying, then paradise =problem?

by Inisc in

this is a question i always wondered about and never got an answer to.. its also another reason why i'm finding it harder to believe in an 'afterlife'.. th idea that humans can live forever, now seems so scientificly impossible.. so i wanted to ask all the great minds on here,.

if someone's spouse dies, and then they remarry,then armageddon comes and goes then the deceased is resurrected,.

how,is that ever gonna work?

snakeface

Blondie is right. Of course the Bible doesn't give those details; the Wastetower made it all up to encourage single ones to stay single (so they could find someone perfect in the New System), and to encourage widows/widowers to remarry "only in the Lord" so as not to disappoint the other spouse.

Can you imagine, in the New System, a few thousand years down the road a single Armageddon-survivor man is attracted to some woman. So he asks her to marry him. Her reply: "Sorry, I can't. I was resurrected."

Is this some kind of curse put on the resurrected ones, that they cannot marry? Can they at least be members of wedding parties for Armageddon-surviving couples? Imagine some faithful pioneer sister who really wanted to get married but didn't "for the sake of the kingdom" and served "whole-souled" as a missionary or in Bethel, all the while "waiting on Jehovah" to provide someone perfect for her at his appointed time when he makes all things new. She dies, wakes up in paradise only to spend eternity single. I wonder how many suicides we'll see in the paradise.

It is obvious that this discussion Jesus was having had to do with the heavenly resurrection, not earthly.

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Remarrying, then paradise =problem?

by Inisc in

this is a question i always wondered about and never got an answer to.. its also another reason why i'm finding it harder to believe in an 'afterlife'.. th idea that humans can live forever, now seems so scientificly impossible.. so i wanted to ask all the great minds on here,.

if someone's spouse dies, and then they remarry,then armageddon comes and goes then the deceased is resurrected,.

how,is that ever gonna work?

snakeface

I think we have to examine this from each person's viewpoint: the viewpoint of the dead-then-resurrected person, the viewpoint of the surviving spouse, and the viewpoint of the new spouse. And based on the assumption that the original couple loved each other and wanted to be together forever, as opposed to one or both wanting out of the marriage anyway. Also, assuming that this whole teaching is true as taught by the JWs.

Would I want my wife to wait for me after my death, and be alone for the rest of this system? Or would I want her to move on and find someone new, someone who could give her the love she still deserves and that I'd not be able to give her anymore? Someone who could take her to all the places she likes to go. I would not want her to stay home crying and being alone. I would not want her to become an old spinster. I'd want her to heal after grieving and to continue to have a happy life. When I'd wake up in the resurrection I'd be interested in finding out how she coped and adjusted, if she made it OK. I'd even be thankful that the new man did take care of her and bring her comfort and happiness. After all, I couldn't have done so once I had died.

If I were the surviving spouse....I would grieve of course. But would I want to be alone for the rest of this sytem? Or would I want a companion, to help fill the now empty place in my heart. Perhaps the new woman would also be grieving over her late husband. She and I could help each other to go on. I wouldn't be replacing him and she wouldn't be looking for a replacement. We would be simply picking up the pieces and continuing with our lives, together. I would be thinking, "What I'm doing for her is what I'd want another man to do for my 1st wife if I had died and left her behind."

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Remarrying, then paradise =problem?

by Inisc in

this is a question i always wondered about and never got an answer to.. its also another reason why i'm finding it harder to believe in an 'afterlife'.. th idea that humans can live forever, now seems so scientificly impossible.. so i wanted to ask all the great minds on here,.

if someone's spouse dies, and then they remarry,then armageddon comes and goes then the deceased is resurrected,.

how,is that ever gonna work?

snakeface

No. This is how it works. Your spouse dies. You remarry. The new system comes and the first spouse is resurrected. He/she will not want you because he/she was resurrected as perfect whereas you need 1,000 years to work out your imperfections...the same imperfections the first spouse was trying to get you to work on in the old system.

Seriously, though, you can see that the Wastetower's teaching on this subject is a crock of crap like all the other carrots they dangle before the flock.

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Weird Pic in Awake - Jesus Looks Very Pleased About Something.

by cofty in

a new member of the jws forum has posted this scan of a picture in the french edition the april 2011 awake.. i have never believed the subversive wt artist stories but this one is funny.. .

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snakeface

Stand firm in the faith!

And for those of you who prefer the King James Bible: "With thy rod and thy staff thou art near me."