Posts by snakeface

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Hello everyone

by jean-luc picard in

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im new to your site so ill present myself.

its been 15 years since i escaped the borg.

i was in a unhappy marriage.

When do you begin counting time?

by pubtruth in

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for those who were in or still are.. when do/did you begin counting time?

as you left for the house group, or after the meeting was over?

did you count the car trip to and from?

I used to begin my time when the field service meeting ended. Many people would stand around in the hall and socialize. Some would start their time when we got to the territory, or when they knocked on the first door.

I always thought of it like my secular job; I'm there from 9-5. I expect to be paid from 9-5 even if the computers are down or I'm called into a meeting or whatever else happens. I arranged to be there at 9, ready to work. I don't punch out to use the restroom or get coffee in the breakroom at work, so I never stopped counting my field service time when I took breaks. After all, had I not been out in field service at all that day, I would not have been on that break either. The break was part of that activity.

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2011 district convention

by obarac in

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somebody know the theme of this years district convention or is still top secret?.

snakeface

The time is near at hand.

We just don't know where the hand is.

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Do you appreciate the sacrifices brothers made in 1927 so that we can preach on Sundays?

by miseryloveselders in

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the may 2011 km has an article on page 2 entitled, "could you share in the ministry on sundays?

1. it was the sabbath, a day when most jews in philippi rested.

paul and his companions were visiting the city during one of their missionary tours.

snakeface

Do the householders appreciate it?

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Do you appreciate the sacrifices brothers made in 1927 so that we can preach on Sundays?

by miseryloveselders in

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the may 2011 km has an article on page 2 entitled, "could you share in the ministry on sundays?

1. it was the sabbath, a day when most jews in philippi rested.

paul and his companions were visiting the city during one of their missionary tours.

snakeface

I was always in favor of going out on Sundays. We were already dressed and at the Hall, we already had our literature bags...I always encouraged others to at least make a return visit or do a few not-at-homes after the meeting. THEN go out to eat. But no one did. Every congregation I was in, even the elders did not support Sunday field service - not even the field service overseer. Except during the CO visit of course.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-20-11 WT Study (SINGLENESS)

by blondie in

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single christians make the most of their singleness?.

of christians, therefore, have come to.

singleness in youth.

snakeface

WhatWasIThinking, I agree with you. Singles over age 27 or so are usually left out. Singles over 38 at least sort of fall in the group with divorcees and widows, when it comnes to social gatherings.

When I was single and working over 50 hours a week and doing a lot in the congregation (including once a month going in at night and cleaning the entire hall alone) I was putting in about 26 hours a month in service. But I had quite a few nosey older sisters (widows of elders) and some elders who told me to "get rid of" my pets so I could do evenmore in service. My response was, "which ones will you take?" which was met with a deer-in-the-headlight look. None of these had pets, and none of them got anywhere near 26 hours in service.

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Materialism in your congregation?

by chukky 594 in

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one of the thing that convinced me that the wt was not the true religion, was the materialism/showy dispolay of ones means of life, that was rife in my ex-congregation.

for example, many had private vehicle plates and huge houses, many kept on moving into bigger and bigger properties.

money for many of them seemed to be the main focus.

snakeface

For awhile I was in a rural area and most of the congregation was very poor. Elderly people living in beat up old trailers. Probably 95% of the congregation drove 17 or 18 year old clunkers. There was only one brother - an elder - who made more money than I do. He had a new house built every few years, had a boat and other things. I had - and still have - a really nice car, (actually several cars including a Town Car which I used to take elderly ones to the conventions) and I contributed a lot of money to the congregation. When we had natural disasters that damaged homes and halls in another part of the state I contributed hundreds of dollars. I also purchased things for many of the elderly friends, for example one elderly sister didn't have air conditioning; I bought her enough fans for her whole house. Now, maybe this elder also did this; I don't know. But he was always bugging me to sell him one of my cars for thousands of dollars less than the fair market value. (The car wasn't even for sale anyway.) He kept saying how having such a nice car would help him take his group out in the ministry etc etc etc. at that I only needed one car. I kept telling him that I would be happy to take the group out in the car for him.

I had many friends - single brothers - who were always crying about not being able to find a marriage mate. These, although spiritual, all worked as window washers and similar, and they drove old clunkers. I'd show up at the Hall in the 2 yr old Town Car, wearing a gold ring with diamonds in it and an expensive suit, and sisters would be chasing me. The sisters would actually show up at my house. In fact one came up to me right after I gave a public talk and said, "I want you to f*** me."

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Major (5 star) barf alert about DC experience

by blindersoff in

comments from our dear sister in the fort worth, tx area.

her email address is: xxxxxxxxxx [ pm me if you want it]

"i went to the sunday session of the convention this week and it was so .

snakeface

He had asked his boss for the day off and told him if he didn't get it he would quit.

An employer might grant a day off if such a threat were made so he wouldn't be shorthanded for the next week or two while he was interviewing new job applicants.

Exactly! The boss would let him have the day off for the convention....then about a month later he'd be fired. In the meantime they'd make his life hell there.

Maybe Bethelites should threaten to "quit" every time they want to go home for a visit.

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Major (5 star) barf alert about DC experience

by blindersoff in

comments from our dear sister in the fort worth, tx area.

her email address is: xxxxxxxxxx [ pm me if you want it]

"i went to the sunday session of the convention this week and it was so .

snakeface

In many cases when Jesus was giving talks, he knew the crowd had other needs such as for food, and he fed them. He didn't expect them to skip meals just to listen to him.

The GoBo should imitate Jesus by recognizing the fact that the flock has other needs (like the need to support their families) and not schedule conventions on Fridays.

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Do you get hassled for posting here frequently?

by sabastious in

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most people in my life that know how frequent i post on this forum find it very troubling.

i have often been accused of "not being able to let go.

" i don't agree that i post here because i'm not willing to let go, i think i post here because i think this place helps other people and i want to be part of it.

snakeface

Over the years, each time I saw hypocrisy or had doubts about something, I reasoned, "Well, just because one elder did that doesn't mean the whole organization is like that....this is still God's organization, everyone is imperfect......just because this one CO did that doesn't mean...."

On this board I've been able to view the organization from a higher, global, viewpoint. Now I see it wasn't just that one elder or that one CO; others on this site (perfect strangers, in other areas) have had the same observations/experiences/doubts.