You know how the WT Society says there's an "Elijah class" and a "Jonadab class" and so on? These elderettes make up the "Delilah" class.
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Evil Elderettes, the true Hounds of Hell!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inmy wife was told a brother was going to be disfellowshiped, "how do you know this is going to happen?
" sister so-so said "he was not repentant or humble to the brother's kindness.
" instead of engaging into a heated debate, she knew who the leak was, so-so's husband.
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Evil Elderettes, the true Hounds of Hell!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inmy wife was told a brother was going to be disfellowshiped, "how do you know this is going to happen?
" sister so-so said "he was not repentant or humble to the brother's kindness.
" instead of engaging into a heated debate, she knew who the leak was, so-so's husband.
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snakeface
In some congregations, it's the elderettes who make all the decisions, and they actually run the congregation. (Reminds me of prison movies where the "bitches" run the place.) But think about the elders. Many are very talented and skillful and knowledgeable in their jobs, but they have no clue about how to manage people. Maybe some have become elders only because their wives have pushed them to do so. These women have a saying, that they tell the brothers: "You might be the Head, but I am the Neck!"
There are a lot of confidential congregation matters that elders share with the MS's. So in some cases the MS's might be sharing with their wives. These wives can be like elderettes-in-training.
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My Dream Has Come True latest tower last page
by therevealer in"my dream has come true" i have a bullshite story in the latest watchtower..
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snakeface
I think the boss just sent her home to change her outfit.
"Lose the dress and just wear that red thing over your shoulders."
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when did you make convention hotel reservations:"during regular business hours or right after the meeting ended?
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I used to work in hotels the first few years of being a JW. Besides the WT convention, we'd have other groups, such as the World Wide Church of God, booking their annual conventions. In fact the WW C of G was the biggest group.
We did offer a slightly lower room rate, but I think the advantage for the hotel was that these groups would be renting a large number of rooms. If we were a 200-room motel for example, we know these groups would be using at least 150 or 175 rooms.
About 6 or 9 months before the convention I'd see some of the elders coming to meet with the hotel mgr to negotiate rooms.
I bet the real reason for requiring the flock to stay at the "approved" hotels was so that the "Pharisee" class wouldn't be seen doing whatever they were doing in the 5-star hotel. In the 1980's our conventions were in St Petersburg, FL. There was a Hilton right across the street but it was not on the list. But I'm sure the Bethel delegates stayed there! At one convevtion I remember during the announcements the CO said (from the platform) there will be a meeting in such-and-such room for all elders who are staying at the Hilton across the street. All elders who are staying at the Hilton are required to attend this meeting. I don't know what the outcome was, but I bet some of them did show up for the mtg and turn themselves in. I guess is, the visiting speakers stayed there and saw these others there.
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My son was murdered today
by truman ini have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
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snakeface
I am so sorry! What a horrible tragedy!
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Federal Agency Says Aviation Concepts Fired Jehovahs Witness for Not Raising Flags
by Bangalore infederal agency says aviation concepts fired jehovah's witness for not raising flags.. http://thejobmouse.com/2012/04/04/federal-agency-says-aviation-concepts-fired-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witness-for-not-raising-flags/.
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snakeface
And I bet this very same "steadfast in the faith" employee was always so quick to accept his Christmas bonus every year!
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Federal Agency Says Aviation Concepts Fired Jehovahs Witness for Not Raising Flags
by Bangalore infederal agency says aviation concepts fired jehovah's witness for not raising flags.. http://thejobmouse.com/2012/04/04/federal-agency-says-aviation-concepts-fired-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witness-for-not-raising-flags/.
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snakeface
This is another example of a witness who is so brainwashed, he cannot think for himself. So many live in constant fear of being caught for the slightest transgression, and then being disfellowshipped. Reminds me of a line in the song, "The Rose": the soul afraid of dying, that never learns to live. Obviously because they are taught that the god who has "allowed wickedness" to go on will certainly destroy them at Armageddon for putting up the flag or for respectfully addressing a priest who has been helping their Catholic relative as "Father" or doing any other normal things the rest of human society does.
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Federal Agency Says Aviation Concepts Fired Jehovahs Witness for Not Raising Flags
by Bangalore infederal agency says aviation concepts fired jehovah's witness for not raising flags.. http://thejobmouse.com/2012/04/04/federal-agency-says-aviation-concepts-fired-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witness-for-not-raising-flags/.
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snakeface
I'm pretty sure the outcome of this hinges upon whether or not that was part of his regular job duties.
For example, at one time (as a JW) I had an evening job in a small hotel on the beach. I woprked at the front desk but one of my responsibilities was to walk around the pool area and bldg just before sunset (since the mainenance man would have left by then) and make sure all the lights were coming on, for the pool, the pool deck, parking lot and so on. If not on I could simply check the circuit breakers or timers and flip them on. If there was a problem I could call the mantenance man to come back. During the holidays, Christmas lights were put up. So, during that season I would also have to flip a few extra switches as I made my rounds, to turn on the Christmas lights. I did not consider that as "participating" in the holidays, so I went ahead and included that in my routine. However, if I had been asked to help put up the lights or to decorate the tree in the lobby, that would have been different, because it was never part of my job to change any lightbulbs or hang any signs. My main job was at the front desk.
The WT used the example of a witness who works at a cashier in a store that sells many items. If a customer comes thru the line with many items, and among those items is a pkg of cigarettes, that witness could in good conscience ring up the cigarettes along with the other items. (we can add to this illustrations a JW who is a Walmart cashier and a customer is buying holiday items or birthday cards.) However it would not be appropriate for the witness to work in a store that sells only cigarettes and related items (a tobacco shop).
What if a JW sister had a job cleaning houses for worldly people - as many do - and one of her duties was to dust all the knick knacks on the shelves and tables. The one day the householder adds a religious statue or a Santa Claus figure. Would the witness dust everything in the house except that one item?
So if this man's job as a mechanic included tasks such as sweeping the tarmac, turning on outside lights, raising and lowering the flag each day, that should be addressed when applying for the job. If he accepted the job on the condition that this was one of his responsibilities, then he is in the wrong. However, if he had never been asked to handle the flag before, all the time he had worked there, and the boss suddenly wants him to do it - knowing that the employee had previously explained his beliefs - then the boss was wrong.
However, in the big picture, the employee should be "reasonable". What if the boss had asked him to put up a flag or sign that was for advertising, or that said, "Now Open" or something like that. He would have done it. So, putting up the national flag wouldn't requrie any more effort than that. He would be just hanging up something for other people to see. He himself would not be worshipping it or saluting it.
I think some witnesses just use this non-participation thing as a way to become a martyr unnecessarily, thinking they'll earn brownie points with the organization.
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I got my Memorial invitation
by Juan Viejo2 ini just got my invitation!
yeah!!!!.
no one knocked on my door.
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snakeface
I got mine too!
I used to be very prominent in the organization, always on the platform, giving public talks and so on. Then one day almost 5 years ago I just never showed up anymore. In fact I had some kind of assignment but I just did not show up. No one called, no one came to the house. I think they figured it out right away, knowing my personality. Anyway, yesterday in the mail there was an envelope from an elder and his wife, my age...they were always the nicest and most genuine people in the congregation. The envelope was hand-written. Had it been from anyone else I would have just pitched it, but since it was from them I thought I'd open it. I figured it would be a Memorial invite and a tract.
Well, it was a Memorial invite, and a magazine folded up, but open to an article inviting those who have strayed away to return. I guess the WT wants to try to pull our heart strings or something. Anything to increase attendance. Anyway, I didn't look at that. I just wanted to read the hand-written letter. The letter was real syrupy - it went on about how much everyone misses me, how they appreciate all the things I used to do in the congregation, they would love to see me, notice this article blah blah blah. What hypocrites!
I think I will wait until the day after the Memorial, then write them a real nice letter on nice stationery...first perhaps saying something positive but genuine about them...maybe saying I remember the many things they did in the congregation (and then I'd name specific things) and am glad they are doing well. And then I'll tell them I had already had plans on Memorial night - maybe a Civil Air Patrol meeting, or choir rehearsal at church - something that would get their attention and indicate I no longer consider myself one of them. I'll mention some of the things I do that keep me "very busy" which is why I don't have time to talk on the phone (in case they're thinking of calling): Angel Flights (they know I'm a pilot), animal rescue flights, helping with fundraisers for the Civil Air Patrol cadets and for the Young Eagles, ongoing education, church activities, and so on. Then I'll conclude by saying I didn't expect to hear from them because normally if people have not bothered with someone for several years, it's considered good etiquette not to contact them again.
That's a very tactful way of saying "No one needs to miss me because they have nice people like you to take over. I have moved on and have no intention of keeping in touch with any of you."
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What does your profile name say about you?
by usualusername ini use usualusername as i am not creative enough to think of anything sexier.... .
what significance is there behind your profile name?.
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snakeface
When I was very new in the organization there was a group of boys who, instead of paying attention to the meetings, would be making fun of everyone present. They were discreetly giving each other the finger and making faces, daring each other to do stuff such as ask an elder if he wears a bra and panties.... They'd make up names for different people...things like Buffalo Butt, Tuba Titties...a bald man was Chrome Dome, a kid with braces was Tin Grin...usual kid stuff. I heard them trying to think of a name for me with Satan in it, like Satan Face or something like that. When they realized I had been listening they called me snake face, with snake apparently referring to Satan. I guess there was an illustration of Satan in one of the publications and these boys thought it looked like me. I thought it was funny.