Posts by Curtains

source: http://www.diariotextual.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15022:cordoba-las-victimas-de-sectas-ya-tienen-una-ley-que-las-proteja&catid=58:sociedad&itemid=181.

the english version first (my translation, sorry) and then the spanish version for anyone to check.. i believe that it would be good for someone to contact ms. maria amelia chiofalo and ms. nadia fernandez.

they would truly listen.. the legislature of cordoba, argentina, passed a law that is aimed at creating a program to assist cult victims, for which purpose an interdisciplinary team will be created with doctors, psychologists, attorneys with special knowledge on the issue, for the comprehensive study and approach to assisting victims.. .

Curtains

from my layperson's perspective it sounds like a very broad educational act more than anything else. The specifics seem to be aimed at the psychological ramifications stemming from physical violence perpetrated by cults and from the threat of physical violence. I cannot see how this would infringe freedom of religion or impact Jehovahs witnesses. (edit to add: I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on this band on the run (curtains - extending an olive branch to band on the run)

Also our conception of cult and their conception of cult are also probably very different. It would be interesting to find out more

Another thing is that an educational program aimed at curbing the sorts of cults that flourish in Argentina may cause people to turn to a seemingly more benign form of worship -like Jehovahs witnesses

edit: but I'm all for education so this act is great. However as Acts and laws are ususally a last resort one can only wonder at the atrocities already committed by these cults in Argentina

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"We are all atheists ...

by Nickolas in

... about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in.

some of us just go one god further.".

dawkins raises a point which some, if not many, theists will dismiss as irrelevant, but i am not exactly sure why.

Curtains

made a note of ideas I like and agree with from the youtube

a belief can be indeterminate

men educated in the critical habit of thought are slow to believe

merely having a belief is no indicator of your having thought about something

having beliefs grants no one priviliged status

absence of belief in god simply means gods don't feature in the things I believe exist

I like the last statment best because to me it says there is no void in an atheist's life - his/her life is full. This is also true of babies.

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"We are all atheists ...

by Nickolas in

... about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in.

some of us just go one god further.".

dawkins raises a point which some, if not many, theists will dismiss as irrelevant, but i am not exactly sure why.

Curtains

thanks sweetbabycheezits, I am mostly an atheist but tend to try and look at things from the point of view of a believer as I have been a strong believer. I do wonder if Dawkins has ever been a believer in his childhood for example.

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"We are all atheists ...

by Nickolas in

... about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in.

some of us just go one god further.".

dawkins raises a point which some, if not many, theists will dismiss as irrelevant, but i am not exactly sure why.

Curtains

psac, I'm always interested in arguments for and against so will try and see if that book is available to download to my kindle.

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"We are all atheists ...

by Nickolas in

... about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in.

some of us just go one god further.".

dawkins raises a point which some, if not many, theists will dismiss as irrelevant, but i am not exactly sure why.

Curtains

so then, nikolas, if babies are atheists at birth, where on the scale of 1-10 would you locate them. Is dawkins saying that lack of specific knowledge is lack of belief. There is something wrong here but I can't quite put my finger on it.

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"Religion...is the Opium of the People" - What did Marx Mean?

by cofty in

when read in context karl marx was not directly attacking religion when he wrote those famous words.. .

religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress.

religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation.

Curtains

thanks for posting this cofty.

I can understand people turning to religion when they are anguished and oppressed but when a person is not in this state surely then it is time to take a break - to get out of one's comfort zone, to explore the dark side. One can always come back to religious sentiments if one needs to in order to transport oneself to a place of peace.

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Made Episcopal Church Yesterday - Exultant

by Band on the Run in

i am anglican.

when i lived in new york, the subway was out at the columbia stop and i walked down amerstdam instead of broadway to get to the next stop.

as i passed this enormous cathedral structure, i saw a sign stating that cesar chavez, the migrant worker leader, and geraldo rivera were preaching the sermon on sunday.

Curtains

good for you band on the run. I am now an athiest but do appreciate your devotion

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Blind Allegiance to G.B. supported by scripture?

by honorsthesis in

hey everyone,.

i have been getting in on going debates with brothers in the congregation about the role of the governing body.

i feel that jehovah would not want us to blindly follow a particular g.b.

Curtains

you guys did warn me about the americans - they do pop out some crazies. But in the main i have found them no different from Brits and very nice people

my thanks to Tec, nikolas, Leolaia, TD, Juan Miguel and many others