Nickolas
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Being A Jehovah's Witness is Simply A Waste Of Time!!!
by minimus ini hope that if any witness sees this thread, they understand that being a witness = being a time waster.. please understand this.
if you don't believe me, i'm sure others here will agree.. if you can salvage any of your time that is left, do it!
get out of this false religion.
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Being A Jehovah's Witness is Simply A Waste Of Time!!!
by minimus ini hope that if any witness sees this thread, they understand that being a witness = being a time waster.. please understand this.
if you don't believe me, i'm sure others here will agree.. if you can salvage any of your time that is left, do it!
get out of this false religion.
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Nickolas
It all comes down to perspective, folks. I think I have maybe 30 years left of existence because that's what the evidence says. A Jehovah's Witness sees this life as but a brief, painful interlude and then .... billions upon billions of years left of existence on Paradise Earth. It is a delusion as incredible and shocking as they come.
my perspective of time left (years) ............................
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Need help waking up a JW friend - Significant prophetic years in JW history
by SweetBabyCheezits inguys, i have a chance to help an old friend but i'm pressed for time.
i'll be googling while i'm waitin for responses but i thought others might have some great sources that are harder to find.. first, can anyone recommend a list or website that lists all the infamous years that russell and other leaders expected to have special significance?
it's been too long since i've read up on all of that but i'm thinking about the years like 1799, 1874, 1881, 1910, 1914, etc.... but i need it to be concise, like a table, and i must be able to list references to scans at least.
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Nickolas
I took the liberty of copying LWT's post and converting it to a plain text file, downloadable here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/rg0on6 . It runs 24 printed pages.
Devastating evidence.
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Which Generation Are You?
by Bonnie_Clyde inwhich generation are you?
and do you overlap with any or all of them?.
generation y has become the popular nickname for current teens and young adults.. .
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Nickolas
Yes, MS, the irony has been noted. What defines a generation anyway? Whatever it is, it is relatively short. Any definition of generation I have heard doesn't fit with the Watchtower's new light definition.
gen·er·a·tion (j
n-rshn)n. 1. All of the offspring that are at the same stage of descent from a common ancestor: Mother and daughters represent two generations. 2. Biology A form or stage in the life cycle of an organism: asexual generation of a fern. 3. The average interval of time between the birth of parents and the birth of their offspring. 4. a. A group of individuals born and living about the same time. b. A group of generally contemporaneous individuals regarded as having common cultural or social characteristics and attitudes: "They're the television generation" (Roger Enrico). 5. a. A stage or period of sequential technological development and innovation. b. A class of objects derived from a preceding class: a new generation of computers. 6. The formation of a line or geometric figure by the movement of a point or line. 7. The act or process of generating; origination, production, or procreation.
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Which Generation Are You?
by Bonnie_Clyde inwhich generation are you?
and do you overlap with any or all of them?.
generation y has become the popular nickname for current teens and young adults.. .
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Nickolas
The most interesting part of this conversation is everyone's paradigm with respect to the word generation and the wry comments from those who recognise it.
Boomer. The generation that for all intents and purposes is no longer contributing to the world's population (or, at least, shouldn't be).
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Need help waking up a JW friend - Significant prophetic years in JW history
by SweetBabyCheezits inguys, i have a chance to help an old friend but i'm pressed for time.
i'll be googling while i'm waitin for responses but i thought others might have some great sources that are harder to find.. first, can anyone recommend a list or website that lists all the infamous years that russell and other leaders expected to have special significance?
it's been too long since i've read up on all of that but i'm thinking about the years like 1799, 1874, 1881, 1910, 1914, etc.... but i need it to be concise, like a table, and i must be able to list references to scans at least.
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Nickolas
Wow. Nice work.
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JW directives you thought were downright stupid
by fallen_princess ini remember one time when i was about 17 years old, i wanted to arrange a costume party for the young brothers in the congo around my age.
i suggested it to one of my friends and was told that the elders had advised against it because it could be construed as pagan and masks have their roots in demonism.
of course, i was never shown any biblical proof of this but just that response took the wind out of my sails and i decided to just not go through with it.
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I recall my BIL ranting angrily about his son coming home from grade school with a reader that included some harmless story about pixies. Evil, demon-possessed literature. He vowed that he would be going to the school the next day to lay down the law with the teacher. The poor boy was mortified.
I feel for you folks. What a screwed up organisation.
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Marriage of convenience
by Nickolas injust a few weeks back my wife and i attended the wedding ceremony of the child of a couple with which we associated in the past.
he and i worked together in the same industrial complex and shared a common interest in antique cars.
i liked the older british sports cars and he liked american steel.
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Nickolas
In an attempt to jump start the conversation, let us expand the context of incompatibility somewhat. What if your marriage partner is actively engaged in separate activities that go against some of your core values?
For example. You are a devoted wife and your husband is equally devoted to you. He fusses over you, buys you flowers, helps you with the housework and the kids, works hard to provide you with a comfortable life. However, he likes to look at pornography on the internet when he knows you're not looking. He likes looking at naked women, but also couples engaged in sexual activity. Sometimes he even likes to look at naked men, too. Take it up a notch. When you're away doing the things you like to do, he likes to dress up in women's clothing. When you're away for a few days and he really wants to be naughty he goes to the supermarket and purchases baby zucchini or some other slim vegetable with which he indulges in what might clinically be described as sexually deviant activity. He does nothing to break the law, nothing that directly does harm to you, indeed nothing that does harm to anyone. In effect, he honours the Golden Rule, but his private activities are to you repugnant, as they would be to most people. And just to forstall snide conclusions, no, I am not talking about myself, although I do have a good friend whose husband, tired of his secret life and seeking his wife's understanding and participation, confessed to her after more than 25 years of marriage that he was engaged in exactly the things I describe above.
Here's another example, more germane to the context of this board and this particular conversation. You are a devoted and loving husband and your wife is equally devoted and loving toward you. She bends over backwards to please you, although there are limits to how she will please you, imposed by her values. More precisely, imposed by the values of the Society to which she belongs and to which she is entirely devoted. Although she does her best to minimise your second-hand exposure to her Society, on her own time she actively engages in promoting doctrines that offend your values, on the basis that they do demonstrable harm to others. Some have died as a consequence of blind adherence to those doctrines, including children, although you don't personally know any of them. More personally disturbing to your closely held values, she is also shunning members of her family - refuses to talk to them, even to be in the same room with them. She seems to have two different personalities. One that is devoted to you and your relationship together, another devoted to her relationship with her Society. The Society is, in effect, the third party in your marriage and in your marriage bed, a third party that tells her that you are spiritually inferior to her and everyone else who belongs to her Society. You detest the Society so you, in effect, offend her values, too, but she loves you deeply regardless, as you do her.
I suppose one could argue the virtue of compromise, but practically speaking there are always limits to compromise. In the first example, my good friend left her husband, and who can blame her? In the second example, my own as it turns out, love has prevailed but the relationship has suffered. Neither one of us is completely happy but, I suppose, happy enough that we stay together.
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Marriage of convenience
by Nickolas injust a few weeks back my wife and i attended the wedding ceremony of the child of a couple with which we associated in the past.
he and i worked together in the same industrial complex and shared a common interest in antique cars.
i liked the older british sports cars and he liked american steel.
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Nickolas
Your first marriage was probably a classic example of a marriage of convenience, Nabeena. You stayed together more out of inertia, or for the sake of the kids, or because of economic/pragmatic realities, but you were loveless. That is one end of the spectrum. The other, I propose, is in an otherwise loving relationship in which the partners, because of their polar opposite perspectives on the more important aspects of life, need paradoxically to put time and distance between themselves in order to stay together. They are in serious ways incompatible and the main thing that keeps them together is love. They might be better off, at least emotionally, if they parted as friends and found compatible mates with whom to spend the rest of their lives. But they stay married, dissatisfied with aspects of one another's life views.
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Marriage of convenience
by Nickolas injust a few weeks back my wife and i attended the wedding ceremony of the child of a couple with which we associated in the past.
he and i worked together in the same industrial complex and shared a common interest in antique cars.
i liked the older british sports cars and he liked american steel.
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Nickolas
It may just come down to how important it is to one marriage partner for the other to be on the same page. And by that I don't mean being absolutely in agreement about all things. If one partner prefers a day of fishing to the day of shopping the other partner prefers, then the two partners don't have an insurmountable barrier between them and they can easily accomodate one another. That is because the distractions between them are matters of simple preference and individuality and don't take up a whole lot of precious time. Time is the commodity they share in their relationship. If they spend months apart because of work, as I have done myself, I can rationalise that easily, because the time will come when the separation will not be necessary. If afterward they spend months apart because they can't see eye to eye on what are perhaps the most important residual aspects of their lives together but they nevertheless stay together out of loyalty or love, then what do they really have together for the precious years of their lives? This is altogether more evident if there are things that they cannot discuss because the subject matter is off limits. When the time away from one another is an escape from the thing that divides them then what in reality do they have but a marriage of convenience?
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