i've sent quite a few new pms on a number of subjects but had no responses.
am i being ignored or is there some sort of it problem?
i don't want to be a pest and nag....but if it is an it problem i'd like to get it fixed.
Heh. It's just the way the system is set up. Consider this thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/202291/1/OH-NO-Please-read
in which a very longtime, respected and well known member hadn't checked her PMs in TEN YEARS. Can't help but chuckle.
in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
Concerned, what I was saying is that the WTBTS dry-humped the shit out of 1975 without penetrating because they remembered when they popped 1925's cherry and got busted. Is that clear enough?
Man, but that's a great analogy.
Carry on. I think that OUTLAW has a good point - ie. a bad example is just as useful for learning as a good one.
in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
You are all wasting your time. Totally, irrevocably, hopelessly blind. Write this Watchtower apologist off and move on. You've probably already written him off in another incarnation, anyway. All this sounds way too familiar.
has anyone actually communicated, or better still, spoken to steven unthank?.
many in the facebook exjw online community are doubting that he's real, and that this issue he's presenting is real.. .
can anyone confirm he's a real person?.
in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
I confess to suppressing an urge to rage and weep when I read posts the likes of CJW's. He cannot see. He cannot see. He cannot see. He cannot see. There is nothing whatsoever you can do to make him see, because he cannot see. Give it up, people. You are wasting your words and your time. The sad thing about being in a cult is you don't know you're in a cult. You're just insulted by the observation and you respond with predictable, blind believing umbrage.
1975 comes up so often and is either ignored or dismissed, just like it was back in 1976. I was there. The meetings and assemblies in 1975 were electric with anticipation. The excitement was palpable. Real. There was no stern admonishment not to run ahead of Jehovah, there was enthusiastic endorsement of people who had sold their homes and quit their jobs to go pioneering full time. I was there. I saw it with my own eyes, heard it with my own ears. It happened. And then the recriminations against the rank and file happened. Our fault. Yeah? Goodbye.
Concerned JW, why don't you just leave? You don't belong here, anyway. It's a disfellowshipping offence for a Jehovah's Witness to be here. You do realise that, don't you? Or is it you've made a conscious decision to go against the direct orders of the Governing Body? Be careful. You can't tell anybody back at the Kingdom Hall about it because if you do you will be disfellowshipped and you will be shunned. You may perceive yourself as some sort of Watchtower ninja-guerilla but your actions are not sanctioned and when you are inevitably shredded to ribbons by the people in here who know the truth about The Truth and perhaps let it slip someday to some other zealot what you've been up to you expose yourself to a judicial committee hearing at which you will be expected to grovel and beg forgiveness and then maybe still kicked out the door.
Either open your eyes or leave.
in a number of different threads comments have been made about the motives of the gb and the wtbts.
it made me think, what is their ultimate goal?
what is their end game?.
great post, just n.
in a number of different threads comments have been made about the motives of the gb and the wtbts.
it made me think, what is their ultimate goal?
what is their end game?.
OK, Does anyone know where the money is?
Ten years ago Newsday estimated revenue for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society at $951 million. Since it is listed as a non-profit corporation, this represents gross receipts, before expenses. It is a big business, one of NYC's top 40. Real estate and other assets? Billions, perhaps.
jehovah's witnesses hierarchy charged.
immediate press release: 26 july 2011. link to this press release: http://wp.me/p1g1hc-4o.
worldwide church hierarchy charged with child abuse.
Wow. This seems to have potential to go critical. Go Steven.
in a number of different threads comments have been made about the motives of the gb and the wtbts.
it made me think, what is their ultimate goal?
what is their end game?.
Once again, Shelby, you flatter me with the generosity of your response to my meagre questions. Thank you. I was unaware of your subscription to the apocryphal works, though. You are multi-layered, indeed. You leave me speachless.
Time for a double single malt (one of my very favourite oxymorons).
i escaped the wt more than three years ago.
yet, even today, i'm still amazed, surprised and thankful that i got out.
it's easy for me to imagine having never getting the information i needed to make a clean break.
And the best part is you are now actively helping others to escape, too.
Every success, Donny.
