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  Index of Evidence for Evolution Threads

  by cofty in

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  re-posting this for reference.. #1 protein functional redundancy comparing the sequences of amino acids in ubiquitous proteins confirms the relationship between all living things..

  #2 dna functional redundancy comparison of the dna that codes for the amino acids of ubiquitous proteins predicts the tree of life with an astonishing degree of accuracy..

  #3 ervs endogenous retroviruses that infected our ancestors are found in the same place of the genome of our closest primate cousins..

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  MeanMrMustard

  It's not my fault you're racists

  Do fuck off

  Based. Lol

  So at this point, if you think there's something to the theory of evolution, you are in a racist cult and you are akin to Stalin, Hitler, or Pol Pot.
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  Ramapo

  by Mit123 in

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  how much is ramapo going to cost?

  my daughter in africa meets in a cow shed for her meetings.

  i wonder how many khs in africa they could build if they dropped ramapo?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  ....but then you have to believe that the WT/JW are controlled by those few elite that want to rule the world.

  I have said repeatedly, over years now (go search history!), that the JWs are actually a branch of the tree - the trunk being The Kerfuffles: the secret organization that rules the world.

  Anthony Morris wasn't DFed or expunged. He was promoted to The Kerfuffles.
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  Critique of Chemical Evolution

  by Vidqun in

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  "molecules don't care about life.

  " first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.

  second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.

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  MeanMrMustard

  @EP:

  
  
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  Critique of Chemical Evolution

  by Vidqun in

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  "molecules don't care about life.

  " first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.

  second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.

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  MeanMrMustard

  I care less than molecules.
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  Critique of Chemical Evolution

  by Vidqun in

  1. watchtower
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  "molecules don't care about life.

  " first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.

  second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.

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  MeanMrMustard

  My point was that there were logical fallacies thrown around from the start.

  The speakers in the first post's video are strawmanning. Their versions of abiogenesis and evolution stated at the beginning are an unreasonable caricatures.

  I tried to illustrate this with a logical contradiction : a married bachelor. Demanding God perform a miracle that pretty much every theist belives is not possible, even for God, is raising the bar too high. It's disingenuous.

  Of course, EasyPrompt, feeling clever, switched to a different context of "bachelor" and declared victory. The irony was very heavy at this point because this disingenuous redefining is precisely what caused the strawmanning at the start.
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  All fundamentalist christians have believed the end times would come when Israel is attacked

  by nowwhat? in

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  they believe the nation of israel is still gods chosen people.

  what if they were the ones who were right all this time?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  When haven't they been attacked?
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  Critique of Chemical Evolution

  by Vidqun in

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  "molecules don't care about life.

  " first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.

  second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.

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  MeanMrMustard

  Such a devastating meme. We are all devastated now.
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  Critique of Chemical Evolution

  by Vidqun in

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  "molecules don't care about life.

  " first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.

  second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.

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  MeanMrMustard

  No, his argument is even simpler than that.

  OMG, really?

  Chemists, biochemists and molecular scientists in the most advanced laboratory setups cannot even synthesize a living cell, even if you supply all the necessary ingredients. They cannot even synthesize RNA, an absolute necessary for a cell to function. They are not even close.

  Wait. Wait. Are you meaning to tell me that if you put a slurry of amino acids, lipids, and proteins into a jar, it won't spontaneously create cellular life?! Are you sure? Did they shake it hard enough?

  Abiogenesis: Origin of life from living matter. And a living entity must:

  1) Be responsive to its environment.

  2) Grow and change.

  3) Be able to reproduce.

  4) Have a metabolism and breathe.

  5) Maintain homeostasis (steady internal physical and chemical condition)..

  6) Be made up of cells.

  7) Be passing traits to offspring.

  Like your elder friend, if they accomplish the above, I will become a believer.

  Pfft. Lol. And I'll believe when God creates a married bachelor.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  "Remedy" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans

  The truth Defamed me.
  I'll add you to the lawsuit!
  Stop telling the truth.
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  Critique of Chemical Evolution

  by Vidqun in

  1. watchtower
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  "molecules don't care about life.

  " first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.

  second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.

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  MeanMrMustard

  ad hominem

  Nope. Didn't attack the guy. I attacked his line of reasoning. All fair game.

  By the way MeanMrMustard, what he's saying: In the primordial soup would have to be many atoms and molecules that would have to be combined to start off life. Although millions of combinations being possible, only one combination would sustain life, e.g., the naturally occurring D-ribose sugar in DNA, RNA and ATP (see Wikipedia). What's the chance of that? But I'm afraid, only an experienced chemist would be able to work this out. So ask for a (chemist) friend.

  I know what he's saying. He frames it all at the start with the " attributes of life". Its then used to do the same trick you've tried above: namely, there was a "soup" and then POOF! - fully formed DNA, RNA, ATP in cells. No intermediates, no process. No other possibilites. And then you coyfully ask "What's the chance of that?" It really sound like deception mixed with the old "irreducibly complex" argument.

  This reminds me of the an elder I once talked to about evolution, and the proof needed for him to accept it. His answer was as soon as 'we have an example of a monkey giving birth to a human', then he would be willing to belive it. Didn't matter that nobody was claiming that should ever happen, and it would pretty much disprove evolution of it did.

  You are making the same logical mistakes...