MeanMrMustard

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  Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?

  by JWTom in

  1. watchtower
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  this topics get a great deal of discussion here.

  what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.

  wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?

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  MeanMrMustard

  Sorry, I hit the thumbs down when I meant to hit thumbs up. I don't see a way to fix that. Again, I'm sorry for the error.

  Just hit thumbs up. It reverses your vote.
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  Politics and Hope

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so there are a lot of atheists on here.

  my question: where does your hope come from?

  that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  So, if homo sapiens get wiped out...all that passion, fighting for what's right, love, all of the epic dramas being played out and the intricate connections... We and all our history burns up, leaving no remaining memories of mankind.

  It could happen... one giant rock from space.

  So, it WAS all for nothing after all!

  Why do you conclude that? Your conclusion doesn’t follow. You seem to be saying that the only way life can have meaning is if it never ends. Some might argue it’s the opposite.

  You could say it's man's narcissistic nature to feel like our lives are worth something and it can be hard to accept that our lives are worthless and so are we, but we have to make it better for the next worthless life.

  Why would I say that? Let’s say, you invent a cancer treatment. 100 years from now, you aren’t around. You think there is no meaning to your life? If, today, you are a good parent, and tomorrow you die, there is no meaning? If tomorrow a rock from space wipes out this little spec we float on - the life you once lead was worthless?

  I think our lives are intricately woven together playing out an epic story of a redeeming Savior saving people who are worthless for an ultimate crescendo of God, man, and creation becoming one.

  Then what?

  But, that's later...I just try to love the person in front of me and make them feel cared for.

  In general, sure. But love and respect should t be blindly given. But I get what you are saying - it’s good to give people the benefit of the doubt.
  

  What does this have to do with hope, though?
  
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  Politics and Hope

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so there are a lot of atheists on here.

  my question: where does your hope come from?

  that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  When I look at my own life in trying to help others, it's always "in spite of" me because inevitably I would fail in "my" efforts, but the person gets helped anyway! I believe God does his best work "in spite of" humanity, but still uses humanity to do it...even government sometimes!

  You should be careful here. The many millions of dead, slaughtered in the killing fields of totalitarian governments, surely wasn’t “God using humanity” for “his best work.”
  
  
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  Politics and Hope

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so there are a lot of atheists on here.

  my question: where does your hope come from?

  that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  Al Gore (and others probably) was predicting the climate changes that we see today unless we act...

  I think he predicted Miami would be under water some time ago - fish swimming in the streets and all. He had a considerable percent error....
  
  
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  Politics and Hope

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so there are a lot of atheists on here.

  my question: where does your hope come from?

  that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  I do not trust the government to make the world a better place. Every occurrence of the world becoming better was in spite of government, not because of it.
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  Politics and Hope

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so there are a lot of atheists on here.

  my question: where does your hope come from?

  that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  My hope is that in 2120 we will look back and shake our heads at 2020 and before for the same reason we shake our heads at 1920 and before.

  Yeah, but you have to be careful here. If, by 2120, the world has a socialist resurgence, it wouldn't be meaningful if all those socialists look back, shake their heads at 2020 in ignorance, as they progress through their short starvation-filled lives.
  
  
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  Politics and Hope

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so there are a lot of atheists on here.

  my question: where does your hope come from?

  that the right people will be put in political positions and will eventually form a utopian society that will meet all needs and we will have equality for all?.

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  MeanMrMustard

  My question: where does your hope come from?

  Do people "have" hope? As if its not attached to anything? Don't people hope "for" things? So, do you mean to ask something like "What do atheists hope for?"
  
  
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  Do You Believe In A “Deep State”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  or do you think the idea of a deep state is malarkey?

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  The first time I heard “Trump agrees with Q”, I thought the news was accusing Trump of being in league with the omnipotent villain from Star Trek the Next Generation. I mean, given the news, it didn’t seem too strange they might be claiming something like that.

  I still don’t know much more about it..
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  Do You Believe In A “Deep State”?

  by minimus in

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  or do you think the idea of a deep state is malarkey?

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  MeanMrMustard

  I am one of the more vocal Trump supporters on this site. But I have no idea what QAnon believes. They only enter my mind when someone on the left claims QAnon believes <insert some belief here>, which they then mock. Well, ok. Whatever.
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  If Biden wins

  by mickbobcat in

  1. social
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  if biden wins i hope trump starts the trump news network and hires out from fox the good casters.

  the people who made fox what it is are starting to get sick of how its turning to the left or dark side.

  this would give trump a voice and keep alive real journalism.

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  MeanMrMustard

  I would get behind an Owens ticket. That would be awesome.

  Lawsuits continue, but RealClearPolitics has 279 for the Biden campaign now - they attributed PA to Biden. I'm sure lawsuits will fly there.

  But assuming Trump eventually has to concede - he should (as Styx put it) "break all of their toys". Pardon Snowden. Pardon Assange. Pardon Flynn. Then release every little piece of information the state department has on any politician - no matter what party. Give all the info to Assange. Declassify ... expose. Break their toys.

  If Trump wins, by some lawsuit miracle - do the same thing. Break their toys.