just beginning to open my eyes...my aunt, flyinghighnow is helping me along.
glad to be in a place where people understand.
i guess i'll be seeing you all around.
Welcome TimeBandit
We are all here for one another, no question is taboo and we all (try to be) respectful to each others beliefs.
Glad you have joined the myriads of people who have 'woken up' to what is going on. It hurts at the start but things get better the longer your eyes become accustomed to the real light of truth.
Look forward to your future posts :)
3Mozzies
my wife's parents just can't stand that we haven't been to meetings since 2005. both are pioneers, retired, active fanatical jws.. anyway, today mil called the wife and after pleasantries, stated that we should really think about coming back to the meetings so we can better cope.
my wife answered: "cope with what?
" mil: "cope with this old system of things..." wife: "hmmm... we seem to be coping pretty well now".
I've had the same conversation with family as well. They just don't get it. They are under such 'mind control' that they think this system is unlivable and we all need the New System™ asap otherwise we will all lose the plot.
Ever since I left I have NEVER been happier! Being a JW is the problem, not this system. The guilt, fear and constant boring meetings etc... makes you yearn for the New System™.
Once you leave, those things vanish and life for me now seems wonderful and I see things in colour instead of the 'JW Grey'.
It hurts if you have family and friends still caught up in the JW Spider-Web, you seeing them struggle and scream for the New System™ because the evil of this world (spider) is coming to get them. They don't realize that the Spider is their religion. What a trap!!!
3Mozzies
i'm wondering if anyone here has had a "near death experience" or know of someone that has.
as an example: such as floating above your body during your operation when the doctors 'lose' you and you make a decision to return back to your body even though the bright light and some voice tell you otherwise... .
did it change you/them in anyway?.
@ jamiebowers Oh no! I hope your husband is ok now. That really must of been so scary. Thanks for asking him what he remembered during.
@ besty ... lol thanks but no thanks on 'União do Vegetal'
3Mozzies
[drama introduction music].
[brothers move out podium, replace it with a couch, love seat, and a television on a bench.
two teenage girls, who can best be described as jailbait for worldly people, watch an objectionable program together.].
Extremely well written SD-7 very accurate.
I remember when we had the 'modern' dramas at the DC and I always thought how cheesy, do people really speak like that?
3Mozzies
i would appreciate your help trying to explain to a jw, how someone could just read a bible on their own and understand what it is all about.
without an organization.. also, how could nonchristians or pagans etc find out about christ without someone to teach them?
after 45 years of using the bible, it is easy for me to say to jesus question "who will you go away to?
I would simply ask:
Do you speak/read English?
If 'yes', then do you have an English bible?
If 'yes', then go ahead and read it, take from it what you will.
How can it be your faith if someone else needs to explain/tell you what to believe. It no longer becomes your belief but you are just following someone else's version of how they see/read it. What if they are wrong? You just followed someone to your detriment.
3Mozzies
are statistics available or does anyone have any idea what percentage of th 7,000,000 jw,s are "born in" versus "came in"?.
From the few congregations I've been part of, I would say that 'born in' is the norm.
3mozzies
"while some christian apologists are fond of asserting that but for the existence of their god, humankind would lack any real basis to criticize (must less do something about) hitler and his nazi regime, they all seem to forget that their holy book, the new testament, unqualifiedly commands subjection and obedience to government as an instrument established by their god.
christians who would criticize or overthrow the nazi government (or any government) would have to violate their god's unqualified commandment in order to do so.
therefore believers are on the horns of a dilemma here: act on their god's purported "objective morality" and in the process violate their god's commands as set forth in romans, 1 peter, and titus or obey their god's commands and be forced to stand by watching a horrible regime persecute and kill people.".
Yep, the bible what a great inspired book! (not)
3M
are statistics available or does anyone have any idea what percentage of th 7,000,000 jw,s are "born in" versus "came in"?.
I think that's impossible to know.
BTW: Welcome to the forum Rocky528
3Mozzies
trinkets like these make me want to .
when you carry the bible, satan gets a headache; when you open it, he collapses; when he sees you reading it he faints; when he sees you are living what you read, he flees!!
and when you are about to re-post this message, he will try and discourage you ... i defeated him!!
Hello, I'm ***** I'm 14 years old. And am one of Jehovahs Witnesses. =)
I love to do all sorts of thing, but at the top of my list is attend meetings. =)
Well that's what he/she says now at 14, as they grow up it will sound more like this:
Hello, I'm ***** I'm 24 years old. And am known as one of Jehovahs Witnesses (to family & other JWs only) but not to my real friends, I wouldn't dream of letting them know of my religion. I hate all sorts of things, at the top of my 'hate' list is attending meetings and going witnessing, those things really suck!
3Mozzies
thinkers?
no, thanks!norman hovland.
to most of us it is of course quite obvious why the watchtower society prefer their "faithful" to have as little education as possible, but it is still very rare to see this expressed so blunt and honest as here:.
Nice find VM44
What a bunch of control freaks!
3Mozzies
