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  Would you go to church?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.

  even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.

  just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.

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  I think I am so over it..........just cannot stand the

  cliqueyness (? )...if you are not one of them, you will

  not be accepted! Tested it out!
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  My Story: from JW Elder to Born Again Christian to Agnostic

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i first posted here on 3rd june 2008. at the time i was an elder, appointed the previous october, i was 36 and i was a born-in.

  at the time i'd become disillusioned with the society due to the governing body's letter explaining why the book study in private homes was being abolished.

  april 2008 saw me start questioning this decision, privately of course, and this eventually led me to this site, to jwfacts and to many youtube videos, all of which began to errode my faith in the leaders of the organisation.. in july 2008, having discussed my doubts with my wife, i attended the district convention, deciding to give the society one last chance to convince me it was the truth.

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  Password thank you for sharing yourself

  with us.

  I remember you from 2010, when my life

  landed here ...all shredded up by wt lies.

  Btw I immediately tried to became a "born again"!

  That lasted about ............3 weeks!

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  Your words are so very encouraging, and your come-back

  after some pretty horrific problems are worthy of

  applause & admiration.

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  "*There was peace in not knowing."

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  That is one of the things that was amazing ...how

  freeing it was to not have to KNOW everything...aahhhhh

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  Set of interviews by Randall Watters with Nestor and Toni Kuilan

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  check it out!

  !the full set of interviews by randall watters with nestor and toni kuilan while visiting them in puerto rico that was filmed by me a few months ago in english and spanish as they speak out for the first time in 32 years.

  nestor will have a book out soon!

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  Nice stuff Randy, great old shots, thank you.

  We love you too!

  clarity
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  I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

  by LennaB in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

  (astrology, racism, ect.

  ) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

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  LennaB .......I just want to give you a hug right now.

  Actually I think many on here are proud of you for

  having the guts to confront those 3 elders! Those

  questions were pretty direct!

  Take it easy sweety, there is no rush...if there ever

  was an armageddon, from what I can see it was over

  & done with many moons ago. You have tons of time.

  There is nothing that can't be fixed in one way or another.

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  Stop worring about the invisable & 'pie in the sky' new world,

  and concentrate on having a wonderful life ..right NOW!

  Your parents gave you life & a beautiful brain....now go out

  and live it to the full! Twenty years old ...how fantastically

  great is that! I say that dear, as I wasted 50yrs working for

  a cult!!!!!!!!!!!! I would give a lot to be young again, but it is

  gone and it won't be coming back ever.....all that was just BS.

  Don't waste another second worrying, don't be afraid WT is

  just a Real Estate Investment Buisness, maskarading as a

  'religion'........they have no power over you or anyone else!

  You are free at last my friend ......get going!

  Sincerley wishing you great success in your life, flaunt

  that youth of yours...cause so many millions envy it!

  clarity
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  I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

  by LennaB in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

  (astrology, racism, ect.

  ) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

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  Anybody else notice all the newbies coming

  out......especially on posts like this?

  A big hug to all of them anyway, it is good

  that they have found a place to land!

  clarity
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-31-2014 WT Study (FULL POTENTIAL)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

  united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm.

  newly baptized brothers (not sisters) because the wts needs men to reach out.

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  Blondie ....me too...I miss you & your great overviews!

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  This is just hilarious, that only males have any value ...

  well, except for using the women to 'service' the males

  in any way possible!!!!!

  Yet who makes up the majority of witness population?

  Who is doing the biggest load of the 'work'?

  The WOMEN ...that is who!

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  The Pew Survey of Religion and Public Life a nd Jehovah's Witnesses

  Jerry Bergman, PhD

  Introduction

  The Pew Survey of Religion and Life Association researches the intersection of religion and public life to better understand the role of religion as a whole in public life in America today. The 2008 survey reveals a great deal of information about religion in society as well as about the Jehovah's Witnesses (JW) religion. The national representative sample used for the survey, which was called "massive," was 35,000 Americans over 18 years old. Witnesses are only 0.7 percent of the population, or in this study 245 persons, which was considered statistically reliable by the researchers.

  The findings related to Jehovah's Witnesses

  One major finding was that Jehovah's Witnesses "had the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition" – only 37 percent of those who were reared Jehovah's Witnesses still identified themselves as Witnesses as adults (2008, p. 26). The survey also concluded that the religious tradition most likely to switch affiliation (including to atheism) included not only the Witnesses but also the unaffiliated. The "affiliation change" data also included persons who were reared in one faith and switched to another faith. For the JWs, more than two-thirds of those who listed their faith as Witnesses were reared in another faith, or were not affiliated with any specific faith, as a child.

  Also of interest is the fact that 80 percent of those who were reared in a religion are currently not affiliated with any religion (p. 27). This supports the finding that large numbers of Americans leave the faith in which they were reared. One reason for changing ones faith is mixed marriage and young people today are more likely to be in a mixed marriage than older adults were, supporting the trend today to marry outside of the religion in which one was reared. These findings support the common conclusion that the Witnesses are today a revolving door religion.

  Education

  The Witnesses had one of the lowest levels of education of all the religions surveyed. Nineteen percent had only a high school education or less, the lowest education level of all religions surveyed (p. 56). This compares to eight percent of atheists and only three percent of all Jews. In contrast, only three percent of the Witnesses had a post graduate degree and six percent were college graduates. This compares with 21 percent of atheists who had post graduate degrees, and the same percent were college graduates. Of the Jews, the comparable numbers were 35 and 24 percent (p. 56).

  Income

  About half (42 percent) of the Jehovah's Witnesses had incomes below 30,000 and only nine percent had incomes above 100,000 dollars. Only those involved in historically black churches had incomes below the Witnesses (p. 60). Of the Jews, a mere 14 percent had incomes below 30,000 but 46 percent had incomes above 100,000 dollars, or over 5 times the level of the Witnesses. Of those who labeled themselves Protestant, 32 percent had incomes below 30,000 and 15 percent above 100,000 dollars.

  Gender

  More females identified themselves with some theistic religious tradition than males for most all religious traditions, including the Witnesses. Of the Witness, the divide was greater than for most all religions, namely only 40 percent of all Witnesses were males, and 60 percent were females. For Protestant traditions the average gender divide was 46 and 54 percent, respectively. For the unaffiliated, the level of men who accepted this label was 59 percent and women 41 percent, the reverse of the Witness ratio. Also of interest is the fact that 14 percent of the Witnesses were divorced or separated, higher than all groups except historically black churches and "other faiths" (p. 67). No doubt the strain of Witness teaching also strains mixed marriages.

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  Note:

  These rates were from 2008........I think the majority

  of women is even higher today.... perhaps that is why

  they are crying for ...more men! Ahh, aren't we all!! ;-)

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  I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

  by LennaB in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

  (astrology, racism, ect.

  ) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

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  Alwaysbusy big welcome to you,

  tell us about yourself, we are interested.

  Just start a new topic and go...............

  clarity
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  I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

  by LennaB in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

  (astrology, racism, ect.

  ) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

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  Lenna sweety...welcome to this place of refuge!

  Pick up your telephone, and cancel this mtg.

  Tell them you have a throwing up migraine !

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  You are not doing a good thing for you or for

  them ....they will just laugh at you behind your

  back! The only thing they are interested in is...

  "Do you believe the gb is gods rep?"

  They do not care about doctrine, history or the

  truth about anything! It is just a Real Estate

  Development Co. fronted by a religion!

  Stay in touch here and you will for sure learn

  the real truth!

  clarity
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  First post

  by BenRichards in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking here off and on for a few years, figured i would introduce myself and share the clif notes version of my story.. i'm in my late 30's and was born in.

  mom was a jw, dad wasn't.

  got baptized in my teens and started dating my eventual wife.

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  Huge welcome to you Ben & Mrs Richards!

  All the best to you from Canada!

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  Turns out it was true - "the truth" was the only reason my marriage lasted so long

  by Shattered Reality in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i haven't really been on here in like, a year.

  my stbx introduced me to this site and then a whole buch of life happened and i just sort of never had time for forums.

  but here i am at 3am, another sleepless night, and i feel like i am simply lost.

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  Hope you get yourself straightened out, & your kids

  into a safe, secure happy environment and........

  as for all the rest of it ......omg ...I am way too old

  to get what the hell you are doing!

  clarity