Yeah I get it...... in this case (if you eat the fruit) it will
kill you ...you will die from it. So.....if I (god) don't let
you eat from the tree of life .......you will die eventually
anyway!
true they ate,they died,but on the other hand if they never ate from it,they could(would ) of died anyways.. let me illustrate:on a store shelf there are many products.one of them has a label"poison" if eaten you will surely die.if a person consumes the poison he is one dead sob no question.on the other hand if he doesn't eat the poison he will eventually die anyways..
Yeah I get it...... in this case (if you eat the fruit) it will
kill you ...you will die from it. So.....if I (god) don't let
you eat from the tree of life .......you will die eventually
anyway!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.
The 70's were not that long ago, it was a happening
time ...with the end of the world coming in '75 & all!
Don't excuse this fool on that basis ...he knew exactly
what he was saying!
clarity
this i never understood, the publications say that gods name translated from hebrew is yaweh.
why add a whole bunch of letters and vowels that change the sound of the name completely?
i've often thought surely we would gain greater respect on the ministry if we used a name that is historically and verbally accurate?.
Which ever way it is said .... still sounds dumbass.
How about an invisible name for an invisible god!
in this week's bible highlights we read about the bizarre trial by ordeal that a woman had to undergo if she was under suspicion of adultery .in number 5:24 we read about this strange "bitter water" that she had to drink resulting if guildy to a sponteneous degeneration of her reproductive organs ,please read the rest of the article here for more clarification ,maybe you can use it this week during the bible highlights at the meeting.... what is the bitter water that a woman had to drink in numbers 5:24?.
Omg .......that smirk on his face says.............
he pissed in it! more denigration of the female...
forced to ride a camel with two bags of dung!!!!!!
i have three stories i would like to tell through a quick message showing the effects of the watchtower, "before i became a jw" and "after i became a jw".
the first would be the real life story of a successful jw business woman who was on track to become ceo of a major s&p 500 company until two jw elderly witnesses weasled their way in to her life.
the second is the happy family everyone loves and all the lives they touch until the cult turns them in to drones.
I like it ...keep it plain & simple.
a lot of members of this forum are still notionally active jws, in many cases because of worries about the loss of contact with family and friends if they were to leave.
i was never in so it's hard for me to judge, but it seems to me that if the watchtower org were to announce tomorrow that shunning is wrong and jws should keep contact with family and friends who leave then the effect would be devasting for congregation numbers.
if so then obviously such an announcement is highly unlikely, but is my view correct?
Family & friends are used as weapons,
they sure the hell are not going to toss
that anytime soon!!!!
i'm off work today and its a monday morning.
a male and female jw just knocked on my door, i opened it, the guy just handed me their latest website promoting tract saying "hi, were just leaving these with people today", and then he made to leave.
i looked at the tract and then looked at him as he was turning to walk away and said to him "ok, thanks, but ummm you could've just left it in my letterbox.".
Oh yeah ....knock on your door just to say that
they don't have time to talk to you!!!!!!!!
ahahahahahahhahahhhhahahahahahhahha
i have been back to meetings for a month now.
prepared for them all except for when i went on holiday.. todays wt is about jehovah's organisation, it's clear loaded language and manipulation through fear.
i am not perturbed by it in the least.
Hmmm ..oh good....did I hear kate's dumped
the whole damn thing!!!!
i've been browsing the site for some time as things that the society teach just are not adding up much these days.
by exploring some of the threads on here i'm starting to see why.
a brief bio.
Purr ....great to have you here! If you want answers
just ask for references or proof....there is a SEARCH on
the top, lefthand side of this page...type in your subject
& viola ... massive info! Hang on for a great roller coaster
ride...................it is exhilarating!......and a bit scary.
All the best
clarity
i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).
as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.
around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.
Hi lurkernomore & the Mrs.... good for you both
and a huge welcome to this site!
Lovely news to to hear this morning, it brings a
smile to my face! The ship is sinking & we feel
so happy when more jws just take a running jump
right off it!
clarity