Thank you, Abaddon, for saying what I was thinking and then some!
Cicatrix
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The history of Islam
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.islamicweb.com/history/chronology.htm
according to a pro-islam website... islam?s history is filled with conquest and violence.
i was intrigued by another posters post about how the crusades were in response to the muslims invading the western world... so i had to do my own research to see if this was actually true.. as it turns out, the muslims have a habit of trying to take over the world.
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I don't date because I'm a Jehover's Witness
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/06/04/1086203613032.html?oneclick=true#.
the princess and the showgirljune 6, 2004. .
anywhere i go they say, 'oh my god, you're number one, aren't you?
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Cicatrix
"where as women can persue other interests and put them first in their lives while getting no reprimand . "
Uh-definitely NOT in my old congregation! I was reprimanded for all of my "sins" and my unbelieving husbands as well!! -
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Just randomly underline study WT or book?
by Max Divergent in.
did you ever get into just doing random underlines and notes and all that on your study wt or books just to look like you?d studied it without ever having even looked at it before?
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Cicatrix
Boy! I was really naive when I was a JW! I didn't ever think to randomly underline, although I was occasionally "guilty" of doing the speed read and underline thing.Mine was usually actually studied. I underlined in pen ( I hate highlighters) and even looked up the scriptures and noted them in the margin. If I forgot the WT, or couldn't find mine, I'd just sit there and listen intently until someone gave me an extra one.
I also didn't fudge on my hours. All those years I was considered "weak" because I got in less than ten hours a month, and I never "padded" my hours in self defense, because I was so stubbornly honest (a weakness in itself, really).
I was such an honest little sheep-baaaabaaa. Pretty dumb, too, a trait that I learned when we actually owned sheep, is common to sheep.;) -
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Just by curiosity, I went to the meeting today
by JH insince being inactive for so many years, i occasionally showed up at the hall, just to understand why i wasn't able to go again.
since joining this forum, i went only 2 or 3 times, each time with the same conclusion.
i just can't do it anymore...even before joining this board, i lost the desire to go there.
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Cicatrix
"but I knew I would miss the mourning meeting"
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Anyone taking any summer school?
by Atilla inwell, in the effort to catch up to where i should be in life, i'm taking some extra classes during the summer.
i normaly love college but this has to be the worst summer of my life.
i'm taking a statistics class that is from may 26 to july 2, meets at 8:00 a.m. to 9:40 a.m. and is m through th every day.
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Cicatrix
I wish! But I have to take algebra, definitely NOT my forte. I tried taking a math class in a summer session and ended up repeating it because a semester's material was crammed in half a semester's time. So I'm going to wait for fall.
I do recommend you take a little break before fall semester. It really cuts down on burn out.
I've been feeling pretty angry myself over everything I set aside. I should be well established in a career, and here I am struggling to get a degree. But it could be worse-I could be watching the news for every little indication that Armageddon has started, lol. -
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TV channel rebuked over 'Play School' lesbians
by ignored_one inhttp://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/story.jsp?story=527993
tv channel rebuked over 'play school' lesbians by kathy marks in sydney 04 june 2004
for people raised in britain, play school evokes innocent memories of humpty, hamble and jemima, the rag doll.
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Cicatrix
A couple of years ago here in the US there was an uproar over a show for children called the "Teletubbies." A faction of the religious right claimed that the show was a conspirancy to introduce homosexuality to toddlers via a male character who carried around a purse. Not having children in that age range, I'd never seen the show. My sister told me about the uproar, which she thought was the stupidest thing she'd ever heard (her kids watch it all the time).
Also, there was the whole "Murphy Brown" debate. The show featured a single woman who chose to have a child. There was a minor uproar over that from the religious right.
My advice to parents who don't want their kids to see a loving same sex couple raising their child-TURN THE CHANNEL! -
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IS THE ORGANIZATION MORE JEWISH THAN "CHRISTIAN"?
by Mary ini've enrolled in a religious studies class this term focusing on christianity and the more i read, the more i'm getting the impression that the wtb&ts actually has more in common with the jews than mainstream christianity as i've illustrated below:.
main stream christianity jews jehovah's witnesses.
trinity - 3 god's in one one god: yahweh one god: jehovah (english version of yahweh).
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Cicatrix
They certainly seem to put a lot more emphasis on the legalism of the Jewish law. While they claim that the law ended with the death of Jesus, they are constantly using the OT laws as "principles" for legislating nearly everything the rank and file do. Even "matters of conscience" are rarely what they are claimed to be. The average Witness sees something that is a "matter of conscience" as a definite no-no.If they choose to go against the status quo on a "matter of conscience," there are often repurcussions.
I see this more as a device of control than anything, because they tend to flip flop so much on their so-called principles, ie laws. The claim that they are "the only channel to God," the fact that they allow no dissent or any inquiry outside of their paradigm of faith paints them more along cult lines (although there are orthodox Jewish sects that are very cult-like, also). -
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Article, Can a Skeptic believe in God?
by Beans in.
finally it is on line, this is a great read, enjoy!
http://www.skeptics.ca/newsletters/winter04.pdf
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Cicatrix
Thanks for posting the article, Bean. It's a very interesting read.
Quantum physics and string theory are two reasons of several why, although I'm a skeptic regarding the existence of God, I'm not an outright atheist.
The only thing I saw in the author's argument that could be challenged is the notion that believers think that God is eternal and outside of the realm of creation, therefore not subject to natural laws of creation. While this is true of many, many other people who believe in a God or Gods think that deities DID have a beginning, and in some cases, an end. The myths of many cultures describe the creation and destruction of their various Gods. And there is also the position that all creation IS God.
I love the inclusion of the scripture at the end:)When I was coming to the realization that I no longer believed what I was being taught by the organisation, this scripture repeatedly popped into my head. -
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kerry sucks
by kilroy2 inwell lets look at the other side.
kerry said he voted for the war just before he voted against it, and acted like this was a smart statment.
huh
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Cicatrix
""I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything'? Sure. Did I expect George Bush to f - - - it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did," Kerry told the youth-oriented magazine.
This seems like a good explanation.
Kerry may not be the best choice, but Bush's theocratic agenda is downright scary (anyone watch "The Jesus Factor"?). After dealing with the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, I am very, very wary of anyone who claims that God has sent them on a mission.Not to mention very, very wary of anyone who proposes an amendment that denies anyone their civil liberties. -
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MONEY OR LOVE? what is it ladies? (for you Badger)
by Sassy in.
the other night sandy and i were having an argument with badger about what women want.. he says money.. .
so what is it ladies?
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Cicatrix
Love.
I prefer to earn my own money. I've seen too many men who use their money to try and buy a woman's love, then turn around and tell the woman how ungreatful she is if she doesn't do whatever he wants to show her "appreciation" for it.
The money is power thing goes both ways.