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  SUMMER,MAKING TIME 4 FUN/RELAXATION

  by Tina in

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  do we,can we,make time for ourselves?.

  many of us exiting the wts were limited and restricted regarding our free time/vacation activities.most activities didn't meet with wts approval for various 'reasons'.

  "worldly associations,is it 'wholesome'?

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  jurs

  Hi Tina,
  i was one of those bad witnesses when it came to recreation. i LOVE skiing. i went one or two saturdays every month during the ski season !!! i never felt guilty about it because i was awed by the beauty of nature. a snow covered mountain is paradise to me.
  But that was really my only indulgence. now i take pleasure in reading a novel WITHOUT guilt !!!
  Above all i really enjoy Tuesday and Thursday evenings now.... even if i do nothing, i feel this great weight has been lifted that i don't HAVE to go to a meeting at night when i'm tired from working all day. funny how i have more energy on those nights now...
  jurs
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  Newby on board

  by Sincere in

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  i have been lurking for a while and thought it time to post.. i am aware of many of the names from the old h2o days and it is a. pleasure to see you again.. briefly, i come from south africa.

  stepped aside as an elder 3 years.

  ago and am still 'associated' for the sake of my family, but inactive.

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  jurs

  Welcome Sincere,
  i think you'll like it here. it's nice to meet you .
  jurs
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  i just had my meeting with the ELDERS !!!!

  by jurs in

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  hey everyone ,.

  i'm high as a kite.

  it went awesome !!!!

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  jurs

  hey everyone ,
  i'm high as a kite. it went awesome !!!! i prayed so hard last night as well as today.
  i was getting cold feet but i read 2Tim 1:7 and felt confident. i wanted to show them that the JW's are like the pharisees. they donot follow in Christ's footsteps. i wanted to concntrate on shunning.
  by the way if you go to the website about JW and shunning from Beacon you will know exactly what we went over . i followed the scriptures as well as explained my research on the jewish as well as early christian traditions . practically word for word. i wrote what i got from the web in my note book so they wouldn't think it was from an apostate web site.... HEE HEE HEE
  BEFORE we went over shunning i held up my crisis of conscience book and i told them thati knew they wouldn't go over apostate literature. but that i just wanted to say one thing about the this book. i told them that it was solid. it devastates the org. after reading just part one recognizes its not the true religion, the truth... i told them its solide has photocopies, names, dates, and where the information is so u can check it out for yourself. i could see why the org forbids members to read it. its too solid to dismiss..
  they said they would not look at any info in it. I said GOOD because the information in that book affected my brain but i wanted to go over SCRIPTURES because that what affected my HEART. they said fine. i then went over the BEACON (apostate info) on shunning. it was AWESOME. the one elder Jay got so shook up. he tried to take back control of the meeting but he was out of contol.
  you guys, i have never been quick fingered finding scripture , but tonight i was like LIGHTNING......it was holy spirit.... ok u agnostics i know your rolling your eyes but i believe it !!!!
  the elder said he was going to go !!! there was no sense talking anymore he had tried to defend the faith but i've made up my mind and he will not argue.
  our eyes are locked on each other... so i ask him "SO Jay, did were u able to defend your Faith ?? because we both know u didn't , you couldn't because i had holy spirit and u didnot... i told him i was fine with the meeting ending where it was because it was clear this was NOT Jehovah's true religion .
  he was shaking, the other elder Dana, by the way, has only been an elder 4 months. he didn't have alot to say. he was trying to calm us BOTH down !!!
  Jay said i didn't give him a chance to use scripture that i was doing all the talking. but if i gave him a chance he would stay. i said sure. he then tried to prove that JW is God's organization and Jehovah has always had an organization. we spent about 5 minutes on it because i argued a point and he said he was going to go again.
  i asked if we could share 1 last scripture before he goes. out of concern for them both. Math 18: 15-17. i told him that is how you should treat DF"d ones . i accused him as well as the organization as being like the Pharisees.
  he got VERY ANGRY and said he was tenderhearted and i hurt his feelings. i told him Jesus maybe hurt the Pharisees feelings when he exposed them but it had to be done. nand shunning is very unloving and a practice that hurts many peoples feelings. i told them i forgive him because i know he'll shun me, but i will pray for you to Jah saying Father forgive them for they no not what they are doing..... they quickly left. Dana the other elder told me that from him personally he hopes i come back and he'll accept me with open arms. i told him he was a ggod guy and i wont ever shun him and if he ever learns its a cult to call me. that it helps talking to someone who understands... Dana was actually pretty cool about the whole thing.......this was the jist of the conversation.. i didn't turn them away but boy was i able to give a witness!!!!
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  JUSTICE #14 - Caring for the Needy - Not!

  by Amazing in

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  caring for the needy not!

  when i first became a jw in the late 1960s and all the years thereafter, the watch tower society would frequently boast about the loving care and concern that jws show among themselves, providing for the needy during disasters, even helping the world.

  the society would publish in the magazines, or comments at conventions about how the world observed our efficiency and overwhelming spirit of giving.. what about the rest of the year?

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  what gets under my skin about many DFing is the lack of scriptural basis. 1 Corinthians 5:11 But now i am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brotherthat is a fornicator, or greedy personor an idolator or a reviler or a drunkardor an extortionar, not even eating with such a man.
  Where did this brother fit in to scritural expulsion??????
  jurs
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  Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't

  by TR in

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  any one here get that sinking feeling when you were an active jw?

  i'm not talking about the point where we developed doubts about the borg, but just the shear weight of responsibility on your shoulders to uphold "god's kingdom" ala wts.. the topic of doing all you can was brought up frequently.

  some would try to sooth by saying "as long as you're doing your best, jehovah will accept you.

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  jurs

  hi vienna,
  thanks for the laugh. i use to wish i was sick too. sometimes before a meeting if my kids slightly complained of their stomache hurting ect. i would jump on the chance not to go...jurs
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  Now That I've Joined, I wish That I Hadn't

  by TR in

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  any one here get that sinking feeling when you were an active jw?

  i'm not talking about the point where we developed doubts about the borg, but just the shear weight of responsibility on your shoulders to uphold "god's kingdom" ala wts.. the topic of doing all you can was brought up frequently.

  some would try to sooth by saying "as long as you're doing your best, jehovah will accept you.

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  jurs

  i can relate !!! i had an unbelieving mate and was always stessed about not doing eneough. i would have thoughts like, i wish i never knew the truth or i wish a witness never came to my door. funny, i never prayed and asked Jehovah if this was really the truth i assumed it was. jurs
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  sister says prayer with elders !!!!!

  by jurs in

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  this friday the elders are coming over to discuss my da letter.

  i keep studying and thinking of what i want to say.

  i'm sure they'll open with a prayer.

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  jurs

  hi roy,
  sorry to hear about what happened to you. its too late to stop my meeting because its tonight and i also invited a lady that studies to come. i don't know if she will but i doubt it. i'm getting a little nervous now to tell you the truth. i have nothing to loose (NO FAMILY IN THE ORG) but i'm getting cold feet. part of me wants to puff on a cigarette and have a beer while i go over my DA letter and the other part of me wants to help them. i'm also aware that it will probably do no good and i risk making an ass out of myself , something i just recently did. but its too late now and what the heck, i have nothing too loose and i'd probably regret not doing it.....jurs
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  Blood Card

  by apostate in

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  i remember every time i had to renew my blood card my book study conductor always told the group that in case of a medical emergency if the doctor asks why you dont want to accept blood transfusion we should never say that because the watchtower says so.

  he told us that we should say that we dont want blood transfusion because it is our religious conviction.. i was a little bit upset about this because i know i would never come to that conclusion on my own.

  i accepted this do to the fact that the watchtower pressured me to do so.

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  jurs

  i also had a similar experience. i also felt pressured. i struggled with the issue but signed it thinking whats the chance of anything happening to me or my kids. also i only carried my card the first few years of my baptism. i didn't carry it the rest of the time. i chose not to think about it because it made me uncomfortable.....jurs
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  POLL - Elders vs Molesters

  by Amazing in

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  2. child-abuse

  i wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.

  unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.

  please simply give an answer, without extended comments.

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  jurs

  i knew 1 JW child molester.
  jurs
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  i jusr made an ass out of myself !!!!!!

  by jurs in

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  hi folks,.

  i've been on this expose the organization kick.

  i'm so angry mainly at myself for being suckered in that i guess i'm running on emotions rather than using my head.

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  jurs

  hi folks,
  i've been on this expose the organization kick. i'm so angry mainly at myself for being suckered in that i guess i'm running on emotions rather than using my head. i just got off the phone with a gal who is studying with JW's. i know her because our daughters are friends and go to school together. i personally have never been to any of her studies. she has studied for 5 1/2 years. i called her and told her that i am no longer one of JW's. i told her the elders are coming over this friday to go over some of my concerns regauding apostate literature. i invited her to come thinking she should feel safe knowing elders will be here. she didn't sound sure. i told her a few of my concerns failed prophesies , shunning and the prodigal son ect. she said no religion is perfect. so feeling totally deflated i told her i called because i wish someone had called me before i was baptized and the invitation was extended. i should also say i told her it was a cult. she's from Germany and said its not on the German cult list and she thought it would be if it were a cult. i probably just fed into the wicked apostate will try to get you paranoia...... i sure blew it.......jurs