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Additional Info on the Beal v. Broadard Molestation Case

by jst2laws in

randy put up several links to news reports on a case in mass that may be setting some new ground in litigation against the wt.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/85786/1.ashx

this info was provided by a board lurker who passed it on to me to post.

jst2laws

A clarification: In my comments above I stated

The two attorneys who have accomplished this are working on their own, no big law firms backing them

Born and Huntington do belong to the Danold E. Green Law Firm. The contrast is that usually the only firms willing to take on the Major corporations, such as the Wt with it's dozens of Supreme Court decisions, would likewise be a major law firm with comparable financial backing. However, if these boys keep winning big against the WT there will no boubt be several of these major firms offering to join them in thi fight.

Jst2laws

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Additional Info on the Beal v. Broadard Molestation Case

by jst2laws in

randy put up several links to news reports on a case in mass that may be setting some new ground in litigation against the wt.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/85786/1.ashx

this info was provided by a board lurker who passed it on to me to post.

jst2laws

Randy put up several links to news reports on a case in Mass that may be setting some new ground in litigation against the WT.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/85786/1.ashx

This info was provided by a board lurker who passed it on to me to post.

The previous articles were based on a report from Lisa Bruno, news editor for Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly. Below is the actual article which clarifies and offers more detail. While the corporate side won by recieving summary judgement, the judge established new territory by finding the "church" did indeed owe a fiduciary duty to its members.

The defendants argued that no court had ever found a fiduciary duty running from a church to its congregants.

"This court believes that a jury could find that the defendants owed a fiduciary duty to the plaintiffs in this case

This accomplishment is remarkable because of several reasons.

1 The judge's decision was that a Jehovah's Witness church could be sued for breaching its fiduciary duty. This is good news because it is a milestone in holding the "Church" responsible to provide reasonable and expected protection from molestation within the congregation in their role of "trust and confidence". The bad news is that the Watchtower Society was dropped as a defendant on all charges, leaving only the local elders to sue. However, the attorneys will not end their pursuit to have the corporate institutions included in this law suit.
2 The two attorneys who have accomplished this are working on their own, no big law firms backing them, researching WT dogma and policy on their own and pursuing this purely on the conviction that their client was damaged by breach of "fiduciary duty to a minor who claimed she was sexually molested by one of the church's ministerial servants".
3 There is a cap in Massachusetts that limits judgments to $20,000 for non-profit organizations. These lawyers are basically doing this pro-bono.

Most gratifying is that Born and Huntington (the attorneys) have, since this article, been put in contact with other law firms involved in litigation with the WT and several former JW's who will be assisting them in their efforts. This may be a case to follow closely.

Jst2laws

Original article:

Minor May

Jehovah's Witness Clergy Accused Of Sex Abuse
By Lisa K. Bruno
A Jehovah's Witness church could be sued for breaching its fiduciary duty to a minor who claimed she was sexually molested by one of the church's ministerial servants during Bible study sessions, a Superior Court judge has ruled.
The defendants argued that no court had ever found a fiduciary duty running from a church to its congregants.

But denied the defendants' motion for summary judgment, stating no rule precluded a trial on the issue.

"This court believes that a jury could find that the defendants owed a fiduciary duty to the plaintiffs in this case, based on the [defendants'] position of trust in the [plaintiffs'] home and church, especially the position of power they wielded over the young [minor]," the judge stated.
The 19-page decision is Beal, et al. v. Broadard, et al., Lawyers Weekly No. .
New Context
of , who together with represented the plaintiffs, noted that the issue of a church's fiduciary duty to its congregants was a matter of first impression in .

"It is very important, and to me obvious, that clergy members owe a duty towards congregants in the sense that the relationship is one of trust and confidence," he said.
Born observed there was a history and tradition of finding fiduciary duties in the context of financial responsibilities.

"You have a fiduciary duty running to lawyers and accountants," he remarked. "That is all the more reason why it should run to children, who are particularly vulnerable, in the case of clergy members."

Pointing to a federal case that had touched upon the issue, but had been reluctant to "blaze new trails," noted that the decision did not view the absence of precedent as a reason for declining to address the question and subsequently finding that a fiduciary relationship potentially existed.

Born added, however, that by dismissing all counts against the church's center of operations and authority located in , the decision left the plaintiffs with "an empty shell."
"These congregations are unincorporated associations," Born explained. "It's unclear whether they can even be sued or whether they have any assets."

Observing the centralized structure of the Jehovah Witnesses' church, he maintained that knowledge held by a church elder was attributable to the principal.
"In this case they promoted this fellow who was the molester to a position of ministerial servant, and they could not do that without the approval and review of the authority in ," Born said.

of , counsel to the defendants, stated there was no prior notice of the defendant's sexual propensities and disagreed with the ruling to the extent that it did not dismiss the counts against all the defendants.
"The absence of notice in this case, as the court found with respect to Watchtower [Bible and Tract Society of New York], needs to be a central principle in establishing any tort, whether it be breach of fiduciary duty or straight negligence," he said.

Notice had to be "part and parcel" of any claim of breach of fiduciary duty, added, "otherwise you have essentially a strict liability theory based upon a religious organization's affiliation with some parishioner."

Abuse Of Minor Alleged
The plaintiff was a minor who alleged that between the ages of 9 and 11, the defendant , her second cousin, sexually molested her during Bible study sessions in her home.
During the time in question, the child's mother worshiped as a member of the Ashmont Congregation of 's Witnesses and the defendant acted as a ministerial servant with the Columbus Park Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

, 's father, was an elder of the congregation and was serving as such when the body of elders appointed his son as a ministerial servant.
Following the period of alleged molestation, the child was admitted to various area mental health facilities and also received treatment in several residential treatment programs in .

After learning of the alleged molestation in August 2000, the minor's parents filed suit on their daughter's behalf against , , the two congregations and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York.

The plaintiffs' complaint charged the defendants with negligence, breach of fiduciary duty, deceit, sexual assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress and conspiracy
.
In response, all the defendants, with the exception of , moved for summary judgment on each count.
Position Of Trust
While agreed with the defendants that no court had ever found a fiduciary duty running from a church to its congregation, he observed no rule precluded a trial on the question of whether one could be found under the circumstances presented by the case.

Turning to other jurisdictions for guidance, the judge took note of cases that equated the relationship between a priest and parishioner to the doctor-patient or attorney-client relationship.

On the evidence presented in the present case, reasoned, a jury could conclude that the plaintiffs likewise placed their trust in their ministers and raised their child to obey the 's Witnesses' faith and its ministers. In particular, he noted that 's relationship with the plaintiffs went beyond that of an ordinary clergy-parishioner relationship in that he was related to the plaintiffs and knew them personally.

"This special relationship between the Broadards and the Beals bears noting because it distinguishes the Beals' claim of breach of fiduciary duty based on the violation of a duty of loyalty and honesty, form one of ordinary 'clergy malpractice' based on violation of professional standards," Smith specified.

The judge acknowledged that courts struggled with the First Amendment implications inherent in defining professional standards for clergy, which involved measuring religious standards against some objective standard.

"However, in this case, the alleged breach is wholly separate from the substance of any religious beliefs, and a trial on the merits should not require the litigation of specific beliefs or tenets of the Jehovah's Witness faith," he continued.

The fact that the Broadards occupied a unique position of trust in the plaintiffs' household, together with the existence of a clergy-congregant relationship, supported the plaintiffs' allegations that a fiduciary relationship arose, Smith concluded.

"No case requires this court to rule, ab initio, that the degree of trust, confidence and faith placed in a minister's hands under facts like these, fails to equal, as a matter of law, that placed in the hands of an attorney or physician," he added.

The judge entered summary judgment in favor of the defendant Watchtower, finding no evidence tied the organization to any actions by or on behalf the remaining defendants.

Remaining Claims
Similarly, dismissed the remaining claims asserted against Watchtower, based on the lack of any evidence showing that it knew of or could have prevented the Broadards' conduct.
However, on the plaintiffs' claim of negligence, he found that the remaining defendants voluntarily undertook to provide the plaintiffs with private religious instruction in their home.
"[O]rdinary negligence principles dictate that where a church or its agent assumes the care and control of an individual for Bible study or other ministerial or religious purposes, and that individual relies on the instructor's status of good standing within her church, the church must reasonably guard against the agent's foreseeable criminal acts," he stated.

Finding that the defendants had knowledge of 's prior incidents of sexual dangerousness, concluded that the risk of injury to the child was within the realm of foreseeable consequences.

On the claim of deceit, under which the plaintiffs claimed that the defendants intentionally concealed their knowledge of 's tendencies towards abuse of minors, the judge found that the defendants' representations of fitness could be construed as representations of fact and that the claim was strong enough to survive summary judgment.

On the claim of intentional infliction of emotional distress, observed that although the moving defendants never directed any extreme or outrageous conduct towards the minor, whether they acted recklessly and indifferently to the likely effect of their conduct was a question for the jury. He rejected the defendants' contention that a trial on this count would involve a review of ecclesiastical procedure, noting that "the plaintiffs find fault with the defendants' conduct, not their belief."

ruled the plaintiff parents could not recover for negligent infliction of emotional distress, having learned of the alleged harm to their daughter some considerable time after it occurred, but held that the minor's claim survived.

He dismissed the count of sexual assault and battery, which the plaintiffs sought to impute to the moving defendants on a theory of vicarious liability, declaring that no rational jury could conclude that sexual assaults were committed in the scope of employment or in furtherance of the congregations.
Similarly, dismissed the plaintiffs' claim of civil conspiracy, stating that while certain
triable issues existed as to the defendants' negligence, "no rational person could infer that
anyone substantially assisted towards a common plan to sexually assault [the child]." (end of article)

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Coming out from hiding

by pc in

jw
friends

i post here on and off but always read everyones post to see what's happening.

lately i have had this really strong desire to just say screw it this is who i am and write it here.

i told my husband who has never been a witness, but he is afraid that someone will try to df me.i have faded for a really long time.

jst2laws

You are normal girl.

Any normal person in an extremely unnormal invironment will be frustrated.

As to "Coming out", my wife and I tried to fade but couldn't stand it. We went to the newspaper and Local Tv station and made it easy on the boys to DF us. It wasn't until we were officially out that we felt FREE and couldn't waite to move on.

Jst2laws

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Do you people have jobs?

by DavidA in

jw
friends

how do you guys find the time to chat on this board all day?

jst2laws

Dave,

Steve

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John 21 the ending of Mark?

by peacefulpete in

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here's a page that argues the history of the gospel mark as well as the hypothesis that john 21, a recognized appendage to john is an interpolated version of the ending to gospel mark.. http://pages.sbcglobal.net/zimriel/mark/.

thoughts?

jst2laws

OK, you guys,

I want the three of you to know I don't comment much on these because I often have to print them out, read and underline and then formulate my thoughts. By the time I do this the thread is dead.

Leolaia, you especially amaze me with your quick responses. By the time I have read something you have already posted an extensive commentary with documentation.

Jst2laws

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Do you people have jobs?

by DavidA in

jw
friends

how do you guys find the time to chat on this board all day?

jst2laws

Dave,

The drugs are kicking in and I'm starting to chill my old&crotchety self out a bit.

Good boy, I was feeling bad because I think it was my day to check on you. Every six hours. Every six hours. And don't overdose again.

DavidA

At least you got three great old posters on page four alone: Larc, Anocruse and Seven006. Now come back and tell us more about your job.

Jst2laws

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Is Baptism a contract?? If so, are minors able to give legal consent??

by coult9056 in

jw
friends

dear friends,

i believe the judicial committee wheels are starting to turn.

let me explain why.

jst2laws

Coult,

Most of us are looking at the underage baptisms apparently not so much as a contract, but, shall we say, an oath. I look at the oath I took as invalid. I was only 15 years old. For most crimes, had I committed any, they would have been removed from the public record at the age of 18. I am starting to see my baptism/oath/contract..call it what you will...in the same vein.

Regardless what we call it or how we view our youthful agreements, the WT views it as a life binding legal contract. Since 1985 they modified the baptism questions to close most loop holes. 144001 explained why answering "yes" to the second baptism question by an eleven year old does become binding even on an adult:

Upon reaching the age of majority, an individual can ratify (surrender the power of avoidance) a contract entered into as a minor. The issue of whether ratification has occurred is dependent upon the unique facts and circumstances of each case, but in general, any manifestation of an undertaking to be bound by the original transaction could be deemed to constitute ratification. In the case of a minor who was baptized, the acts of continuing to attend meetings, engage in field service, give talks, and doing the rest of what constitutes being a JW would most likely be asserted by the Watchtower as acts constituting ratification.

I think that means if you keep playing their games after growing up then you effectively "ratify" the commitment of the eleven year old child. So how about the child who gets baptized because their friends were getting dunked, but shortly after puberty they pitched a fit, quit meetings and field service except to the degree they were forced to comply by their parents and split completely when they come of age. Then at age 20 it is announced they are DF'd because they were seen smoking a cigarette. Would they not have a case, if they can prove damages, against the WT? What evidence, if a client and the right attorney took it to court, could the WT present that gave them "ecclesiastical authority" over this adult? Jst2laws

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Is Baptism a contract?? If so, are minors able to give legal consent??

by coult9056 in

jw
friends

dear friends,

i believe the judicial committee wheels are starting to turn.

let me explain why.

jst2laws

144001,

Since baptism is not one of life's necessities or one of the other exceptions to the general rule that minors do not have capacity to enter into a contract, in a majority of states, such a contract would require court approval or it would be voidable by the minor.

A contract of this nature ought to be void, not voidable.

If I remember correctly you speak with authority on matters of law. Do you have information about a child coming of age but going along with the WT rules. Does that "imply" validation of the contract made years before?

What about the change in the 'dissassociation' policy in 1981, and the change in the 'vows' in 1985? If we did not object to the change, does that imply acceptance of the new policy, nullifying future legal complaints?

Jst2laws

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exciting news-its not over till its over-----and it ain't over-vicki boer

by needs_lots in

i hope i haven't jumped the gun on this one, but it was too exciting to keep a secret.

for all of you who followed my trial, and the diappointing results, will find this interesting.

i have always felt that this story, the whole story, needed to be told.

jst2laws

Vickie,

I'm sure you have wondered what if as to the settlements the WT offered with the "gag order" attached. I doubt you even hoped for this, but be assured, this is the opposite of what the WT hoped for.

This must happen.

Jst2laws

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Is Baptism a contract?? If so, are minors able to give legal consent??

by coult9056 in

jw
friends

dear friends,

i believe the judicial committee wheels are starting to turn.

let me explain why.

jst2laws

Hello and welcome Coult, Ordinarily a person under 18 is protected by laws applying to rights of minors. However, A judge will not force a blood transfusion on a 15 year old if after interviewing the youth he feels they are mature and it is sincerely their belief. He is in the position of taking rights away from a young adult and appropriately approaches cautiously. The opposite is true of legally binding an adult to a contract made by a 15 year old. Who knows years later if they were mature or if they were sincere in their decision to 'contract' with the Watchtower. What is boils down to is what did this person do upon or before becoming an adult? How old were you when you left the WT? The problem with most incidents is what did the young baptized person do as a legal adult. If they did not openly renounce their former baptism, which will result in DFing, then their silence is taken by the courts as acceptance and confirmation of their decision made as a child. There is more than one law firm posed to take on the WT on this matter but they are presently inundated with other lawsuits already filed against the WT. It will probably be a couple of years before they will be ready to present a few test cases to the courts. Any of you young people who got baptized while very young, who desperately want out without being DF'd. you may have a chance by consulting the right attorney NOW, and taking the right course Before becoming a legal adult. If you are seriously interested in this course, PM me and I will give you a lead. Remember, though, I do not know of any law firm ready at this time to take this matter to court. But it may be worth looking into. jst2laws