Posts by ambersun

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Must Read Message I got on youtube....

by Tuesday in

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hey folks so i got this actual message to my youtube account i believe everyone would find really funny:.

tim,.

i had a visit today of some local jehovah's witnesses and one of them (i think his name was brandon west) said that he had met you in new york city.

ambersun

Tim, I find your videos very helpful as your subjects are so well researched and you have a gift for putting into words things that I know to be false about WT teachings, but don't quite have your gift for explaining them in such a concise and easy to understand manner.

It appears there are many others who also find your videos extremely valuable, whether they are looking for answers personally or just searching for the right words to try and reason with our JW relatives and their closed minds.

Thank you for all your hard work in putting those videos together , they are very much appreciated

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Over 40 Lady and want a tatoo, What do you think?

by lovelylil in

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i've always liked tatoos and disagreed with the wt's stand on them.

i just turned 42 on may 14 and think its about time i get one.

nothing drastic, just a small lilly flower on my left shoulder.

ambersun

Well, from a mother's point of view (as I am old enough to be your mom) I agree with mouthy that there may be risks involved and to look into it very carefully before making a final decision, but you said you only want to get a small tattoo so I shouldn't think that would cause much harm if done by a qualified tattooist, and a little flower on your shoulder would look pretty.

I also think - hey, you only live once and after years of denial as a JW, if it is really what you want then go for it girl!! You are certainly not too old!!

Isn't it wonderful to be free to live life and have fun !!!

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RUTHERFORD - Alive and well?

by sizemik in

many here are familiar with this entry in wikipedia .

for those that aren't, here's a link;.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/joseph_franklin_rutherford.

ambersun

Sadly, I think you are right luna2, and it seems as long as there are gullible people looking for a 'strong leader', there will always be power crazed, obnoxious, drunken, chauvenistic oafs only too willing to give them exactly what they want

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...WBT$/JW 1975.....Harold Camping`s May 21 2011 Rapture...

by OUTLAW in

now we know how stupid we look..when we knock on peoples doors... with the wbt$ message... .

"armageddon is just around the corner!".

..................... ...outlaw.

ambersun

Whoops, I think mr. Camping made a mistake and forgot to calculate the ZERO year so that means it's supposed to be May 21, 2012

Oh no, please don't put ideas in his head

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Should False Prophets be sued for fraud?

by Aussie Oz in

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billions of dollars are generated and poured into ministries like campings, people have again done what they did in millers day, in 75, and again right now.. believers sell belongings, donate their money and time to these sort of cons, basically bankrupt themselves for the prophet who later gets to cry 'no foul'.

while we may mock (and rightly so) miller, russell, rutherford, the wt, camping and all the others of the same ilk, what about those suckered in?

some of them are now bust just like in the previous mentioned examples times as well.. what massive culpability must these ones bare?

ambersun

believers sell belongings, donate their money and time to these sort of cons, basically bankrupt themselves for the prophet who later gets to cry 'no foul'.

Bloody vampires of the world. About time they were all rounded up, locked up and never released. And same goes for upstart prophets. Ruiners of the gullible them all.

I couldn't agree more, Aussie Oz!! Either lock 'em up or dump them all on some remote island far away so they can spend the rest of their days conning each other to their hearts content and leave the rest of us in peace!!!

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Hi Friends! An Update! I'm a mommy now! :)

by Butterflyleia85 in

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i know i havent been on here forever!

i still am very happy and researching and reading all i can to keep me from going back.. i want what is best for my baby boy, ian.

he is so precious to me!!.

ambersun

Awwww, congratulations on having such a lovely little boy, he looks absolutely adorable, what a sweet little face! I wish I could reach in and give him a cuddle!! Well done xxxxx

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New Curcuit Overseer Brainwash Talk....Obey the Slave even if you find a serious Flaw in JW Doctrine

by foolsparadise in

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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/media/circuit-overseer-5-15-11.mp3.

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brainwashing at its best here.

ambersun

I just listened to the first couple of minutes and lost count of the number of times he said 'the truth'. It seemed to be in practically every sentence!Have marked it for later when I have more time to listen properly.

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Is the Governing Body Guilty or not guilty of 1975 speculations going too far?

by Terry in

the most disengenuous aspect of "official" pronouncements from the society can be identified.. it is in the positioning of the speaker/writer as a passive onlooker commenting on exterior happenings.. this bystander mode is clever by half.. why?

it spoon feeds information without taking any active personal responsibility.. sort of an "oh gee, wow--look at all this going on" stance, while taking a stand-offish tone, is printed in the official magazines and books approved for publication by the governing body as mouthpiece of jehovah.. think about that.

it is insidious incitement without responsibility.. the person (likely fred franz) who crafted these bulletins had gone through several previous incidents of failure and disappointment and was well aware of the effect of any speculations upon jehovah's witnesses in the past.. this makes what was printed all the more calculated and irresponsible in the extreme.. let us parse the language printed by the watchtower society with careful attention to what is said and left unsaid.. w68 8/15 p. 494 why are you looking forward to 1975?.

ambersun

Now that we are down the road in history from when this event was published and we NOW KNOW it was all bullshit it stands as a warning

for all of us that THESE PEOPLE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

The Watchtower Society was being crafty and calculating.

They were trying to have it BOTH WAYs.

Having lived through the Fred Franz era, and having been on the receiving end of the effects of all that mass hysteria I can agree 100% with what you are saying. Franz knew full well what was happening and could have put a stop to it at any moment, but it served his purpose not to do so.

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I must say goodbye to you all......

by Mr. Falcon in

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the fine spiritual information that i recieved at the convention has made an impact on this bitter heart.

i came to realize that what i thought was logical was nothing more than my imperfect heart seeking to be rebellious.

i was so wrong!

ambersun

I quit you beat me to it. I was going to ask him that!!!

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Do Active Witnesses Find Meetings Exciting?

by Band on the Run in

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kh meetings were utter hell.

the boredom, particularly for a child, was awful.

i feel it was a form of child abuse.

ambersun

Our new Kingdom hall doesn't have any windows.

Just the memories of all those glorious summer Sunday afternoons spent inside stuffy KHs listening to monotonous voices droning on and on and on about things you had heard a thousand times before makes me feel .

At least I usually had a window to look out of, and I can remember going into trance like states just watching leaves on nearby trees swaying in the wind. The thought of NO WINDOWS is unimaginably awful

My guess is that we would be amazed at the number of active JWs who find the meetings boring and just endure them every week because they have no choice, but dare not admit it even to themselves!!

LOL at clarity!!!