ditto baldeagle
You can perhaps find a more diplomatic way of using breakfast of champions' solid easy arguments, but that is really the way to go if you want to remain in the shadows.
The C.O. is trying to engage you in dialogue, do not engage.
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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.
by The Laser Viking ini am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
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Psychology Today - interesting articles about Cult Leaders and Predators in clergy or organization positions
by wannabefree ini stumbled upon some articles in psychology today written by joe navarro, an ex-fbi counterintelligence agent.. this one talks about predators as priests or clergy as well as in other organizations and why they are attracted to it .... https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201404/why-predators-are-attracted-careers-in-the-clergy.
this article talks about identifying dangerous cult leaders ... how many characteristics do you see in some of the gb leaders past and present?.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders.
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Wouldn't it be great to have somebody like this observe one of AMIII's talks and then report what's going on with his body language? -
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Psychology Today - interesting articles about Cult Leaders and Predators in clergy or organization positions
by wannabefree ini stumbled upon some articles in psychology today written by joe navarro, an ex-fbi counterintelligence agent.. this one talks about predators as priests or clergy as well as in other organizations and why they are attracted to it .... https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201404/why-predators-are-attracted-careers-in-the-clergy.
this article talks about identifying dangerous cult leaders ... how many characteristics do you see in some of the gb leaders past and present?.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders.
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wannabefree
I stumbled upon some articles in Psychology Today written by Joe Navarro, an ex-FBI counterintelligence agent.
This one talks about predators as priests or clergy as well as in other organizations and why they are attracted to it ...
This article talks about identifying dangerous cult leaders ... how many characteristics do you see in some of the GB leaders past and present?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatcher/201208/dangerous-cult-leaders
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Your body of elders - were they liberal, conservative or moderate?
by minimus inin my first kingdom hall, the elders were ultra conservative.
our presiding overseer used to be a zone overseer.
the second hall i was in was moderate.
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In the two bodies I sat with, most were liberal to moderate ... however, there was at least one conservative that would bring out the rule book when he felt the need. One conservative and a rule book trumps a majority or moderates, if not, Mother's representative will set it straight on the next visit. -
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A sensible fix for the Jehovah's Witness "two witness rule" when dealing with child sex abuse
by Watchtower-Free injehovah's witnesses could retain their two witness rule for internal judicial.
congregation matters .
but in the case of a child abuse allegation they should .
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What they do is what the law of the land requires. The lawsuits brought against the Organization are from decades ago for the most part. Because laws vary from state to state, they are instructed to call Watchtower legal ... even if there is only an accusation by a single individual. Elders are then instructed to comply with the law for their particular area, no more and no less. This clearly isn't for the protection of the innocent, although it may provide more protection than years gone by, it is a protection from future litigation for the corporation. -
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New "I'm an ex-Mormon" video ... could easily fit a JW
by wannabefree incheck this one out and share with your jw friends if you can get away with it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-1ibfy2tou.
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Another new one ... these are such great tools.
My wife is uncomfortable with them, she has caught on to my gig.
I played this for my daughters today and they liked it.
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Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?
by stevepill ini have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
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Stevepill, you seem to be a little indecisive here.
What do you want in the relationship?
What are you worried about?
Stand your ground, man up.
JW is not just a religion, it is an identity. It is based on fear, guilt, promises never realized, it runs deep. Your girlfriend clearly struggles with the JW identity. Whether she is living it or not, it is her foundation and until that foundation is recognized as flawed by her, anything else in her life is built upon it.
She has two failed marriages as it is. She needs to address her issues and until she is willing to take an honest look at her foundation, she will only address symptoms. Major events in life will cause her to reflect on the indoctrination and may very well drive her back to the religion at some time. Even if it doesn't, she will always have difficulties if she believes that it might possibly be The Truth.
When she has her own kids, even if she was willing to sacrifice her own life and ignore her faith, she won't be willing to let her kids die at Armageddon. If she believes the religion, she will want to return to it because in her mind not doing so would be a death sentence to her children.
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New LDC Meeting KH Video
by wifibandit inbeen away from the site for a few days...because i have been busy getting these!!!!!!
(pixel, thank you!
) they did not make it easy, plus technical difficulties.. for the main attraction:.
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New LDC Meeting KH Video
by wifibandit inbeen away from the site for a few days...because i have been busy getting these!!!!!!
(pixel, thank you!
) they did not make it easy, plus technical difficulties.. for the main attraction:.
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Something else I couldn't help but wonder about ....
The speech by His Holiness Lett was prerecorded.
With how these guys seem to get themselves in trouble in live performances, I wonder if they will try to prerecord future talks of these guys since they are now in the limelight more that ever so they can be edited and controlled.
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New LDC Meeting KH Video
by wifibandit inbeen away from the site for a few days...because i have been busy getting these!!!!!!
(pixel, thank you!
) they did not make it easy, plus technical difficulties.. for the main attraction:.
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I listened to the program.
Overall the new plan seems to be reasonable, what they never address is the actual motive.
My thoughts as I listened ....
They are spending a considerable amount of time preparing the audience by warning them about the scriptural reasons not to complain. They must have anticipated that it would be hard to sell.
(some of the background music in the videos seemed hypnotic)
They have become landlords and if they haven't completed the property takeover yet of all of the Kingdom Halls in the U.S. this helps achieve that goal.
Local congregations are just renters now. The property belongs to the Society and will be rented into perpetuity.
That they are no more than renters is evident by the fact that the Organization will make all decisions (other than perhaps some local decoration options) ... they will decide if a congregation needs a new hall or a remodel or nothing at all, they will decide the location and acquire property ... the elder's will be appeased by allowing them to make suggestions, but they will ultimately have no final say.
The congregation will have the blessing of providing for the material needs/cost of this LDC crew that will come and make preparations. Although, in my mind, if everybody is now renting until time indefinite, why are these expenses not just covered by the rental pool?
And, further emphasizing the fact that they are renters without actually stating it, they finish by telling about the great privilege each congregation will have with standardized preventative maintenance schedules and how the Organization will train each congregation how to properly maintain the property for the landlord.
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Towards the beginning there was a comment made about how there were interested ones that lost interest once they visited the Kingdom Hall ... then towards the end it was commented that these new attractive Halls may attract interested ones ... and I'm wondering, if God is supposedly drawing somebody who has the right heart condition by means of His Spirit how does this make sense?