two high ranking watchtower officials admit to quite a lot in these official committee hansard documents.
if you are one of jehovah's witnesses, perhaps you would like to read how two senators take the watchtower officials apart piece by piece.
especially on the blood issue, several times the watchtower officials walk right into a wall.. the watchtower officials admit that the tax imposed by france could cripple the entire organization.
Yeesh... what embarrassing arguments they came to the table with such as why JWs make better adoptive parents (they don't participate in dangerous sports).
The simple reasoning on the blood issue was brilliant esp. the comments re: the Jews view on blood.
scholar,.
back on october 7, you said:i will respond to your response to the historical blunder made by franz and jonsson as alleged by me in a couple of days.. .
(the post was http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/59355/901501/post.ashx#901501 the thread was wts chronology(oslo hypothesis) from vicar;trinity college fellow,cambridge.).
Scholar, your attempts at a response are sad and self-parodying. I sensed no fear in AlanF's post. I would like to take your arguments seriously, but you aren't playing by the same rules as others in this debate. You do not respond to and address any specific questions posed to you. It seems you are deflecting attention away from what you actually said in private correspondance with others by whining (and yes it comes off that way) that those conversations were for private consumption.
I have a simple and straightforward question for you: Will you admit to the lie you have been caught in? I (and dozens of other thread readers) cannot be bothered to read another word of your hard work that you apparently put into your posts if you won't be honest with us as we can read in plain view how you have tripped yourself up. Is this one battle over some long-dead Adventist's comments and the Society's misinterpretation of his writings so pivotal to your belief in 1914 and the FDS, that it would completely shatter your faith if you admitted they were indeed wrong?
the tuscon citizen reports on a story involving 5 jehovah's witnesses who went on a fishing trip sat.
in the gulf of california.
4 days later their boat was found adrift with no one on board.
Maybe it was their alternative escape plan to doing the "slow-fade"?
i have the best of teddy pendergrass in mine.
i was just in the mood for some sweet mellow music.. what about you?.
dimples
In rotation right now:
The Strokes - Room on Fire
Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash
Belle & Sebastian - Dear Castoptrophe Waitress
Outkast - Speakerboxx
Hot Hot Heat
victorian sky has a great thread on music.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/57646/1.ashx.
it got me thinking, about tv shows, anything in particular you were told not to watch, being a little kid in the 70's i do remember hearing shows from the platform that we should not watch.
You couldn't watch the Simpsons? I find that funny... We had a Circuit Overseer (very arrogant jerk I might add) who actually quoted an episode in his talk. I thought it was pretty funny at the time...
just read this article about martin luther -- the wtbts state -- luther recognized that god's favor cannot be earned.
rather , it is granted to those exercising faith romans 1:16; 3:23,24,28 .
these days i do not go to meetings very often so i do not know what is new light and old -- and have read in r. franz coc similar material with ed dunlap and commentary on letter of james.. this implies salvation can not be earned (i.e.
Hear hear Francois! That has been a longstanding beef I have had. They teach that Jesus fulfilled the Law, but then turn around and quote it's "principles" as "guidelines" (not laws) that Christians should follow. I never could figure out how they could manage that feat.
cleaning the basement and i found this letter that i copied from the dawn bible students archives years ago when i worked there!.
have fun!.
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Anyone know if Knorr actually had a Caddy?
blondies post on an earlier thread re the gate crashers at the assemblies running to "save" the best seats got me to thinking..
just what constitutes a "good seat" at an assembly?
i've never quite understood that.
Here's a little suggestion for some mischief. Next time one of you folks decides to go to a DC, run around right at opening and pick up all of the books and magazines used to save seats and stick them in the lost and found. I remember I did that one time - never got caught. It was pretty funny actually.
what's a kingdom song you can remember singing that gives you the creeps now?
mine is "move ahead" i think that was the title, anyway it has so much rhetoric... but the tune is so darn catchy.... darn.... in my opinion, those songs are the perfect example of mind control.
move ahead.. move ahead ... blah blah blah blah blah .
Try this out folks.... Sing the lyrics of "Marriage is God's Arrangement" to the theme of the Muppet Show...
It works quite nicely!
"Marriage is God's arrangement"
"By him it was designed."
"It forms a bond of union, brings blessings to mankind." (bah dump dump!!)
What the hell does the above mean anyways? It brings blessings to mankind?
Basically all of the Kingdom Melodies were to indoctrinate people with, well, doctrines. The pink songbook had to be replaced with the "new light" of the orange one. I am sure there were some serious problems (ideas) with older songs forcing them to ditch it. I was always annoyed as well as to how many songs were like contemporary compositions. I seem to remember one song sounds a lot like a Christmas carol.
how can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?.
when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.
young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.
Holy crap! That misogynistic garbage is over the top as to be completely laughable. I can't believe they ever had the nerve to print this crappola.
