Are Bane, Alice and Mad in competition with each other to see who can get the longest thread going.
I think Mad is in the lead.
are bane, alice and mad in competition with each other to see who can get the longest thread going.. i think mad is in the lead.
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Are Bane, Alice and Mad in competition with each other to see who can get the longest thread going.
I think Mad is in the lead.
i was told yesterday by my daughter that when she was younger she hated me and her dad.. she wasn't beaten, she was allowed to play with friends other than jw's, had parties, always had kids round to play, jw and worldlies ( i hate that term).
i could go on.. the reason she hated us was because we encouraged her on numerous occassions to stay in the borg.. what i find so distressing is, i cannot believe the power we had over her.
we kept her going in something that was killing her mentally, emotionally and physically and all the time saying 'don't take it out on jehovah, it's not his fault, don't you think he knows what's going on.
@StAnn I didn't say I was surprised, I said the distressing part of it was I had that power over her to keep her in a cult. I too was a convert and at the time thought I was doing the best thing for my children. I hate the Borg with such passion you would not believe.
My daughter said she hated us back then because she was bullied terribly by elders kids and pioneers. We supported her as much as we could but what power had we got over these people, what was the point of ever saying anything to elders about their kids. If we had, our daughter would have been taken in the torture room and then accused of lying against their brats. I would never put her through that.
And yeah your right we do reap what we sow, I should have slapped them silly.
Time is a great healer and hopefully, one day, we can all say that they no longer affect us. (((((hugs))))) to you and yours.
i was told yesterday by my daughter that when she was younger she hated me and her dad.. she wasn't beaten, she was allowed to play with friends other than jw's, had parties, always had kids round to play, jw and worldlies ( i hate that term).
i could go on.. the reason she hated us was because we encouraged her on numerous occassions to stay in the borg.. what i find so distressing is, i cannot believe the power we had over her.
we kept her going in something that was killing her mentally, emotionally and physically and all the time saying 'don't take it out on jehovah, it's not his fault, don't you think he knows what's going on.
Thanks to those who have posted on this thread and not shown any malice just understanding.
@ life is to short - I truly hope you can find peace in your heart. How I would have loved to have seen that look you gave the CO. Bet it was classic. If you need to talk just PM me.
i was told yesterday by my daughter that when she was younger she hated me and her dad.. she wasn't beaten, she was allowed to play with friends other than jw's, had parties, always had kids round to play, jw and worldlies ( i hate that term).
i could go on.. the reason she hated us was because we encouraged her on numerous occassions to stay in the borg.. what i find so distressing is, i cannot believe the power we had over her.
we kept her going in something that was killing her mentally, emotionally and physically and all the time saying 'don't take it out on jehovah, it's not his fault, don't you think he knows what's going on.
@ BANE even your name is in capitals, which suggests SHOUTING.
Thanks for your unwarranted attack. Yeah you are very correct in saying that Jehovah cleaned us out. He cleaned us out of a vile apostate organaisation in which people like you sully and degrade His glorious name. He saved us from an organisation that professes to be His but by their works show they are truly not. As a family we left still having a strong faith and belief in God and His Son knowing they both love us.
How my heart aches for ones like you so full of hatred, a hatred that Christ clearly told us never to have, not even for ones we consider to be our enemies.
Any future remarks from you will be ignored by me because normally I wipe dog doodoo of my shoe and carry on walking.
when i was a firm believer that the wts was god's chosen organization, i didn't really research too much.
never gave much thought to other opinions.
if the insight book said so, than it was factual.
Yep, used to sit up till 3am sometimes just reading stuff, then lie awake till the alarm went off. Had to stop because I was so sleep deprived.
I don't think I will ever forget the moment I found out about the UN and the NGO debacle. Silent Lambs was a heart stopper.
I don't obsess about finding anything out now, infact I have a really hard time reading anything from the WT. Happier for it too.
i was told yesterday by my daughter that when she was younger she hated me and her dad.. she wasn't beaten, she was allowed to play with friends other than jw's, had parties, always had kids round to play, jw and worldlies ( i hate that term).
i could go on.. the reason she hated us was because we encouraged her on numerous occassions to stay in the borg.. what i find so distressing is, i cannot believe the power we had over her.
we kept her going in something that was killing her mentally, emotionally and physically and all the time saying 'don't take it out on jehovah, it's not his fault, don't you think he knows what's going on.
@life is to short
Are you still attending some meetings, if so do you really have to. Sitting and listening to that poisonous drivel will not help heal your mind.
Can you make a clean break?
i was told yesterday by my daughter that when she was younger she hated me and her dad.. she wasn't beaten, she was allowed to play with friends other than jw's, had parties, always had kids round to play, jw and worldlies ( i hate that term).
i could go on.. the reason she hated us was because we encouraged her on numerous occassions to stay in the borg.. what i find so distressing is, i cannot believe the power we had over her.
we kept her going in something that was killing her mentally, emotionally and physically and all the time saying 'don't take it out on jehovah, it's not his fault, don't you think he knows what's going on.
@ life is to short ((((hugs))))
Please do as my daughter did, start enjoying your life NOW, don't hold onto bitterness. You can have hobbies, make friends, do your best to be happy and be the best person you can be. You deserve it. You never forget the past but it doesn't have to haunt you. Don't let them rob you of any more of your life. I wish you all the best.
i was told yesterday by my daughter that when she was younger she hated me and her dad.. she wasn't beaten, she was allowed to play with friends other than jw's, had parties, always had kids round to play, jw and worldlies ( i hate that term).
i could go on.. the reason she hated us was because we encouraged her on numerous occassions to stay in the borg.. what i find so distressing is, i cannot believe the power we had over her.
we kept her going in something that was killing her mentally, emotionally and physically and all the time saying 'don't take it out on jehovah, it's not his fault, don't you think he knows what's going on.
I was told yesterday by my daughter that when she was younger she hated me and her dad.
She wasn't beaten, she was allowed to play with friends other than JW's, had parties, always had kids round to play, JW and worldlies ( I hate that term). I could go on.
The reason she hated us was because we encouraged her on numerous occassions to stay in the borg.
What I find so distressing is, I cannot believe the power we had over her. We kept her going in something that was killing her mentally, emotionally and physically and all the time saying 'don't take it out on Jehovah, it's not his fault, don't you think he knows what's going on.'
I recently started NLP therapy to help me come to terms with all the emotions I have felt since leaving the Cult. Mostly it's to do with grief, regret and guilt for raising my children in this vile organisation. I don't blame her for hating us, I hate me. I very often think how our lives would have been if we hadn't joined.... yeah different, very very different.
She's doing great now, happy and enjoying life and loves us. We're cool
you don't have to answer all of them at once.
i would be happy to see your answers to any of these questions.. remember, the inspired apostle peter gave this direction in the holy scriptures: "always [be] ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of you a reason for the hope in you, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect.
" (1st peter 3:15).
@ Alice - wow Alice you have left yourself wide open on this one
Your last sentance says ....... apostacy is a rebellion against God not an organizaton.
According to that then I am not an apostate because I am devoted to God and view Christ as my salvation. It is the organisation I have rebelled against.
how do you overcome this?
i just got done reading isocf and toward the end ray warns against bitterness.
i guess i just can't agree with that.
Hi, I don't think it matters if you get baptized or not. If you inherit this religion and leave because you come to a conscious decision that it's not for you, for whatever reason, then your treated just the same. The majority view it that if you have been taught from a child up, then you are answerable to Jehovah.
They will shun there own shadow if they have to.