great article, great response & great link - I'm still totally naive to most of the facts on JW history (not unlike all dubs) and the wiki on Charles Taze spanks of opportunist rather than God-directed. Keep up the good work
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55JW replies on my Shunning article
by besty ini have a google article on shunning -.
http://knol.google.com/k/why-jehovah-s-witnesses-practice-religious-shunning#.
its had almost 15,000 page views :-).
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World Cup 2010 - I cant wait!
by lepermessiah ini am so excited for this weekend...... any predictions on winners, players to watch, etc?.
the usa/england match will be interesting.. the media in the states is trying to rile up people by showing the liverpool fans who burned the us flag.. http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/worldcup/story/american-flag-burning-by-liverpool-fans-should-incense-yanks.
frankly, from what i can tell, american ownership has been a bad thing in the premiership.
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Been saying goodbye to several fans I work with who are catching flights down to SA. Went to Germany in 2006 which was fantastic.
C'mon England!
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What happens when a elderly dub is put into a care home?
by highdose inspeaking from my experiance i have seen no less than 10 elderly jw's put into old age care homes and promptly forgotten about!.
no visits from their "loving shepards" no vists from their spritual family.
they were left to rot out of sight out of mind.
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It depends how far out of the territory the care home is. Like most who leave the territory - out of site out of mind.
The elderly were well looked after in my KH although often not by their own family who were JW's in our KH! One elderly sister didn't want to be put into a care home but it was decided by the elders and within a few weeks she'd died (or rather lost the will to live). I'm not blaming the elders because it was a tough decision, but with hindsight the wrong one.
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"Losing My Religion" Film Project needs help
by Dogpatch inpassing this on from jim moon:.
subject: exjw documentaryhi everyone!.
one of my exjw friends in los angeles is developing a documentary about the jws entitled "losing my religion" and he asked me to forward information to anyone i thought might be interested in helping out with its development.
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Looking forward to it. Great title, great topic.
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Quick one-liners to explain why you haven't been to meetings
by gubberningbody in"i know it took a long time, but i finally made the truth my own.".
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I wasn't there to get the reminders.
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Bahamas: JWs versus National Insurance Board legal battle
by behemot injehovah's witnesses in nib battle.
by krystel rolle ~ guardian staff reporter ~ [email protected]:.
in a dispute that stretches back nearly two decades, the attorney representing a group of jehovah's witnesses made a final attempt yesterday to convince the court of appeal to overturn a supreme court decision which requires his clients to continue to make national insurance contributions.. attorney w. p. cathcart, who represents glen alexander colebrooke and the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses of the bahamas, laid out several reasons yesterday why the appellate court justices should do so.. the jehovah's witnesses are appealing the entire ruling of justice stephen isaacs, who dismissed their application for a review of a national insurance board's (nib) decision that requires 28 witnesses to make the contributions for a small monthly stipend that they receive.. members of the faith are not paid for service in the congregations, however, full-time branch workers like colebrooke and traveling representatives get a modest monthly allowance.. nib has said that this arrangement constitutes a contract of employment and the funds must be taxed.
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Pay what is Caesar's to Caesar. NWT: dispute in court and avoid paying at all costs. Waste as much court time as possible in the process.
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You know, you guys still aren't worldly
by gubberningbody inin fact, for the most part i've observed a higher level of morality among so-called "apostates"..
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Ray Franz Tribute
by besty inover at freeminds we didn't want this day to pass without some recognition of the life and death of ray franz.
in view of his stated wishes not to have a memorial or service we hoped for something that he would have liked for all of us to take a moment over.. .
we owe a note of thanks to v for his graphics work and atjeff for the obituary writing - i know neither of them need mentioned by me.. .
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Excellent and very fitting. As someone who knows little about Ray and just started reading CoC I'm so glad he shared some of his thoughts and experiences with us.
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EASY WAY TO END IT ALL
by QuitWastingTIME ini don't understand... with all the people who are contra-watchtower - i mean all the books, all the websites, all the forums dedicated to "exposing" the watchtower "truth" - why has no one group actually just gone ahead and really exposed it?.
all the proceeds from crisis of conscience or whatever other books (many on amazon.com) or whatever spare money and time people have to create these forums for people of varying degrees of craziness and experience could all go towards one simple solution: infiltrate the governing body "enclave" meeting room with bugged mics and a hidden camera.
really, why hasn't anyone thought of that?
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The silent lambs stuff made TV and was pretty powerful stuff but the Borg is still there and it doesn't get more personal than harbouring sex offenders who have preyed on innocent dubs. Granted it may have made some leave.
The Borg will talk their way out of anything - or end up removing a couple of scapegoats. If your plan were to stand any chance of success, the evidence would have to be so widely publicised and notorious that every bud would hear of it despite being told from the platform to ignore it. I can't see that a taped/filmed conversation about changing any single doctrine/policy could really do this - even if you could legally reproduce it and get Sacha Baron Cohen to introduce it.
I understand where you're coming from but I don't think there is an easy way to end it. Good luck though.
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How Long Did It Actually Take You To Leave The Organization?
by minimus ini started reading "apostate" books when i was a teen at the library.
it was more curiousity than anything else.
at home, i used to read all the old publications and i'd notice how beliefs had changed.. with ray franz's books that i read clandestinely, i started to realize the truth about "the truth".
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Faded for nearly a decade. I just didn't buy the 1995 generation change, was bored mindless by repetition and precise prophecies that were assumptions based on assumptions. Most of the "common sense" I heard from the platform was rubbish. By the time the Silent lambs stuff came onto TV it was just a matter of time.
I did as little as I could get away with. Went to college, sorted out my career, bought a property and was financially independent.
I reduced the number of friends I had in the truth to a handful that weren't in my KH so kept a really low profile. Was considered very weak by the end. Then came that moment of deciding to stop going - just told family that I wasn't going to go to any more meetings. Bang - the fallout was upsetting and I was watching my back for a while.
I'd built up a surrogate social world at my work which gave me the confidence to leave. Even though I knew the Truth was a lie - it is pretty hard to leave.
Free forever and it just gets better.
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