The_Doctor10
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Probable Discovery of Life on Comet Philae
by cofty inaccording to leading astronomers the probe philae that landed on the comet 67p last november may have discovered microbial life..... sadly neither the probe nor the orbiter rosetta are equipped to test directly but the evidence is interesting.
these are not easily explained in terms of prebiotic chemistry.
the dark material is being constantly replenished as it is boiled off by heat from the sun.
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The_Doctor10
It'd be so awesome if they confirmed life elsewhere! Let's see creationists and theologians weasel and squirm their way around that! -
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Why isn't Jeehoober more like Jesus???
by DATA-DOG inthis just struck me as odd.
if the bible is really god's word, and it's all real, why doesn't jeehoober act more like jesus?
jesus perfectly imitated jeehobo, right?
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The_Doctor10
It's what always confused me, OT Jehoobah is a vengeful, angry, jealous, spiteful, malevolent, dictator, then in the NT he has a kid and mellows out. Jebus preaches about how cool, kind, and loving his invisible sky-pops is, a complete turn-around from the O.G. version in the OT.
Jebus hands all credit to his invisible sky dad, saying that he's imitating him, but this imitation is a complete 180 from the invisible dictator we all came to know and loathe from the OT account.
It's almost as if Jebus was Jehoobs PR Department, "Look, Dad, you're really powerful, and I think you've shown that quite, uh, proficiently..." ... "I know right? So many people I've smited! Awesome right?!" ... "Yeah, so about that, people aren't so happy about the whole being smited thing, they think you're kind of sorta, just a little bit of a dic...a dictator, they think you're a dictator." ... "Ok, and the problem is what exactly?" ... "Look, just let me go down there, smooth over some things with your disgruntled employees, lets call it rebranding, get a whole new image for you, I can sell a kinder, gentler form of celestial judgement." ... "Hey, son, I got an idea, how about I send you down to earth to make me look better?" ... *smh* "Great idea Dad..."
Jehoobs sends Jebus down to earth to become the sacrifice for us lowly humans, Jebus goes through with all of the suffering, torture, and finally death... and who do we give credit to? The grand poobah Jehoobah! Wait, what?! What'd he do? Basically nothing, he did nothing, he sent his Son, but Jebus did all of the heavy lifting as it were so yeah, kind of greedy there grand master Jehoobah! That ego from the OT popping right back up in the NT.
Jebus tried selling a Jehoobs that turned over a new celetestial leaf, but in the end, Jehoob is the same old egomaniacal creator we always knew. Taking credit wherever he can and shirking responsibility wherever he feels like it.
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Why is the Governing Body pushing the very young(5-12 year old) into getting baptized into subservience to the Corporation?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini think a very simple reason may be because the very young are pretty much the only ones naive enough to take the plunge these days.
with the internet available to inform people about the deceptive lies printed by the wt corporation it seems that they are getting their member from the less informed population like the elderly and the very young.
they/gb hate higher education because they loose members who get one and so they are focusing on those that are dumb enough to believe their boogie man bull shit about jehovah choosing their corporation and anybody not a part of it he will destroyed at armageddon.. also we need to consider that they view these young people as a potential free labor source so the sooner you get them hooked into baptism with the threat of disfellowshipping you can get more free labor out of them..
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The_Doctor10
I always hated seeing kids get baptized, even when I was one of the mindless followers of the WTS. I took the rationale that they always said, "Getting baptized is the most important decision you'll ever make." So if that's the most important, what would be a close second? Getting married, but to get married, typically you have to be 18 (barring parental signatures) but for the sake of example, 18. So if you're not old enough to make/comprehend making the second most important decision of your life, how could you be ready to make the "biggest decision" of your life as a kid, pre-teen, or through most of your teenage years? It made no sense to me when I'd see a 7 year old getting baptized.
By comparison, Jesus didn't even take the plunge until his 30s, was he "avoiding responsibility for his actions?" as they so often love to point out in parts about getting baptized at a younger age.
But, I guess even when I was R&F of the WTS, I showed a penchant for logical questioning.
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Today's watchtower a special kind of rubbish
by freemindfade inthe wt today was horrific.
i was jumping out of my skin.
the writing department has hot to have some lose cannons writing.
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The_Doctor10
Yeah the Sarah points were definitely a huge reach! They even ask the question, "Was Satan behind the scenes?" ... "The Bible doesn't say." The WTS goes out of its way to vilify Satan, but goes on and on about Jehovah, when most of the "bad things" are actually commanded/committed by J-Hov himself. All of the stonings, genocide, infanticide, rape, etc... are all at various times commanded/condoned/committed by God.
God definitely holds the murder tally over Satan in the Bible. So much for his "loving patience," and being an "all loving creator."
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Well isn't this a bunch of BS
by Doctor Who inwell, our sister congregation just had their co visit this past week.
on saturday afternoon, i was talking to a couple of ministerial servants in that congregation and they stated that an unmarried brother is not fulfilling to the max what jehovah wants of us.
they stated that the co went on a tirade that if you are unmarried you are being selfish and not following what jehovah wanted for mankind since he created eve as a compliment for the man.
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Got to be a CO pushing his own brand of Bible thumping. The RC had a whole part about how "singleness," is a gift. Just another self-righteous JW leader towering over the rank and file. -
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Are Mothers who ever Nursed thier children going to die at Armageddon and thier children too!!
by Crazyguy inwe all know that the faithful and discreet slave is passing on jehovah's words to mankind and has related many times over the decades that we are not to partake of blood, whole blood and its 4 major components.
yet for years many mothers have ignored this warning and this proclamation that we should sacrifice ourselves and our children as a human sacrifice to god rather then ingest blood.
these mothers knowing or unknowingly passed million of white blood cells in each drop of their breast milk.
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Point for Science!
Wonder what kind of bs responses you'd get pointing this out. Those are probably somehow "different white cells."
Just another point that makes following an ancient book written by Iron Age peasants all the more ridiculous.
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Proof - of what?
by Doltologist ina few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
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The_Doctor10
To get anyone who is a current JW to be open to taking an honest look at the WTS and the Bible, they need to have already questioned something in the organization or the Bible themselves first. Otherwise they're just full on regurgitaters of the "truth," they've been indoctrinated in.
For myself, simple research into the 1914 belief started my decline. 607B.C. not being the year that any secular historian accepts as the correct year of Jerusalem's destruction, which really should be enough to go, "The WTS got this wrong. This should be backed up by secular history, that would be what makes this belief right and what makes it believable. Our beliefs are always touted as being backed up by worldly facts, why is this one wrong?"
The original date of 1914 was preached to be the end, not the beginning of Christ's rule, they changed this to fit under their, "new light," premise. Then you find out about other failed dates, 1874-1878, 1925, 1975, etc... And every time the WTS dismisses the claims with, "While some in the organization felt this way, this was never the direction of the GB." If you don't go, "Well then why were these dates in your literature that you disseminated to your followers?!," then you're still too indoctrinated with your beliefs about the "spirit-directed" organization to move forward. This started my decline. Then that lead to questioning the Bible itself, then the loss of faith altogether.
There has to be a self-made crack in the armor of their belief before any further progress can be made.
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Drama at the RC
by leaving_quietly ini sat through part 1 of the drama yesterday.
i thought they did a fairly decent job with it, except for the weird questions asked up front by an ancient guy asking "how do you know jehovah's witnesses have the truth?
" that has absolutely nothing to do with how he was convinced jesus was the messiah.
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The_Doctor10
What bugged me about the Drama was that the two women are actually being extremely reasonable with their doubts about Jesus and this is portrayed as shortsighted because of, "faith."
"How do we know she was really sick before being 'healed?'" and "He ordered everyone out of the house except for the mother, father, and three of his own apostles, so how do we know if she was actually dead and not just asleep?"
The narrator dude even said that Jehovah doesn't want "blind faith, but for you to take into account all of the evidence and observe the facts." First off, 'blind faith,' is a redundant term, all faith is blind, if we have absolute proof of something then there's no faith required because we absolutely know by facts what something is. What was being asked of those two women was EXACTLY blind faith, they had ample reasons for doubt, but we're being told they should show faith.
We should question faith every opportunity we have, it's ridiculous what the WTS requires of its followers, it needs people to blindly follow.
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A Watchtower quote about apostates I never knew about
by Saintbertholdt ini knew the watchtower didn't like me, but i didn't know they wanted to physically kill me (if they were allowed)from the 15 november 1952 watchtower magazine under questions from readers:.
in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshiped, how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?.
we are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from god and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of israel in the wilderness of sinai and in the land of palestine... (and a bit later)..being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of god through jesus christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws.. so let me get this straight: if our secular pesky laws were not an obstacle and jesus was not in the way we'd be hunted and exterminated?.
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The_Doctor10
It's those scriptures that I like to use to show how immoral/hypocritical the Bible/Jehovah actually are. Jehovah directly commanded his people to stone to death others. It's not that they did this way back in ancient times, that's not surprising, but it goes to show that God is not truly "merciful," or "loving," he's malicious, malevolent, and vengeful.
I truly believe if the GB introduced "new light," that prompted some good ol' Old Testament justice, a lot in the organization would go along with it.
My moral bearings wouldn't ever allow me to stone someone else, regardless of who commanded me to do so, for anything they do with their own bodies. But so many "in the truth," today are really chomping at the bit to exact "God's wrath," should they get the chance.
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Single Sisters
by BashfulAshG inam i the only one who has single, desperate sisters in the congregation?
they tend to be holier-than-thou, frumpty, but in private talk about getting married.
but they don't understand why no brother will look at them.
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Desperation is in every KH. I mean marriage is one of the only activities condoned in being a JW, so it's a pretty big deal to those man-seeking frumpaluffaguses. Timeline of being a JW: be indoctrinated at an early age, miss out on tons of fun other kids get to have, get baptized dedicating yourself to a lifetime of being a non-thinking repeater of ancient writ, get married to a frumptastic fellow non-thinker, have and indoctrinate your own brood, and then die "in the truth," holding out hope that in the next life you'll get to do some things you actually want to do.
As a side note, talking about the goofy dress standards. I remember going to this past year's Annual Meeting and the stupid rhetoric about how the sisters shouldn't be wearing "Spanx," he really meant Yoga/tight workout pants, which brings up the issue of the GB just being so far out of touch. I mean, if you're going to denounce something, at least get the name of the thing you're denouncing right! Also too, this is more of that "rape-culture," vibe, basically blaming sisters for causing brothers' inappropriate thoughts.
Then the whole brothers in skinny pants, or bright dress clothing, "calling attention to themselves." Just step in line, be modest and boring. I've always found the unwritten "no beard," rule weird too, I mean we see nothing but beards in the publications but any brother having a beard is a no-no.
It's all too tedious and overbearing, it's ridiculous.