first century.. rome.
jerusalem.
galilee.. low tech world.. roman armies marching always into battles.. sons and fathers conscripted to fight and die.. taxes.. morning to sundown scraping out a meager living.. .
Poverty and illteracy are really not the reasons people flock to Religion.
Wealth, health and literacy aren't causing to people to flock to religion either. The opposite, in fact. (I have numbers to prove this, would you like to see them?)
So what is it? All I can think of is that in the absense of socio-economic or cultural factors, then fear or mental instability are causing people to flock to religion, if indeed people are flocking to religion. What else could it be?
first century.. rome.
jerusalem.
galilee.. low tech world.. roman armies marching always into battles.. sons and fathers conscripted to fight and die.. taxes.. morning to sundown scraping out a meager living.. .
excito-are.......
One of the most wealthy, powerful, well looked after countries in the world today have people flocking to Christ.
Okay. Which one?
Are you referring to the little Bible Belt strip of the US? If so, firstly that's not a country on its own, and secondly then what you mean to say is "maintaining its belief in", not "flocking to".
The vast majority of the most wealthy, powerful, well looked after countries in the world today DO NOT have people "flocking" to Christ-faiths. Check your stats please.
i get a sense, especially from "sob story" threads, that some people would cry about their situations, whatever they were.
wherever in the world.
however intolerable (or not) the situation.. could this be true, or am i being unfair?.
Personally I feel the term "crybaby" is relevant to a few people on this board.
That completely aside, I know a woman, for example, not related to Witnesses in any way, who has one of the most desirable lives I can imagine. Wealthy beyond belief, with a devoted retired active husband, an astonishingly beautiful house, more leisure time than she knows what to do with, who is the biggest bore I have ever met. All she can do is complain about the miniscules of her household and her health. What a crybaby.
i get a sense, especially from "sob story" threads, that some people would cry about their situations, whatever they were.
wherever in the world.
however intolerable (or not) the situation.. could this be true, or am i being unfair?.
To clarify, by "crybaby" I don't mean literally crying, or feeling emotions, or expressing feelings, or sharing stories. These things are healthy and natural.
When I say "crybaby" I mean, as my topic title says, "POOR ME".
This includes attitudes of, in my opinion, "Oh woe is me", "The whole world is against me", "I'm gonna eat some worms", all that kind of stuff. When I see that kind of emotion --- it almost discounts the story, however valid and sad, that gives rise to "poor me". That's just me though, one listener, one reader.
(Does the word "crybaby" mean different things in different cultures possibly?)
i get a sense, especially from "sob story" threads, that some people would cry about their situations, whatever they were.
wherever in the world.
however intolerable (or not) the situation.. could this be true, or am i being unfair?.
I get a sense, especially from "sob story" threads, that some people would cry about their situations, whatever they were. Wherever in the world. However intolerable (or not) the situation.
Could this be true, or am I being unfair?
Could you be a crybaby? Or do you know crybabies? Or are there crybabies here?
i'm really curious how many of those df'd have ever received a yearly visit........ .
BluesBrother, hilarious, ironic, poignant.....
A week or two later he came to the Hall. We shunned him of course, but tried to communicate through gestures and winks that he was welcome.
i've noticed on so many threads people misrepresenting what and atheist is.
so hopefully anyone who is so inclined can view this clip to get it a bit of clarity on the definition, so others don't have to constantly repeat themselves and correct uneducated assertions on what atheism is.. enjoy.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt1wdnrkllq.
Technically Christians are about as atheist as I am. The only difference is that I believe in one less god than Christians do.
it was painful at first but now i see the advantages of not having needy relatives spending the weekend with me and scoffing my food and raiding my bar.
my wife is happier too.
it's like having a heavy rucksack removed.. i have 39 jw relatives and 38 of them shun me along with the army of ex-friends who remain in the tower.
Love your opening post, Gladiator, very funny.
Disagree with the premise though. Being shunned for being a sloth or emotional drain or con-man or thief or murderer makes some kind of social sense; being shunned for religious beliefs is unnatural and feels wrong. Can never like it.
i'm really curious how many of those df'd have ever received a yearly visit........ .
So I'm still getting a mixed message from ex dubs - you kind of want elders and MS's to visit you AND you don't want them to visit you? If they don't, they are criticized, if they do then they are criticized?
Give the guys a break!
I know where I stand. Bless you all for NOT visiting me.
holy crap!
he probably votes!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zga7nt-jxno.
His organization posted a sort of "apology" --- which is even worse. Don't waste 5 minutes of your life watching it; I did it for you.
