the first image below is what little ole yerry pee ... er, i mean jerry lee ... er, i mean tom, initially got so "all shook up" about.
(maybe he should be nicknamed elvis, instead?
) the funny thing is, it didn't even phase the recipient.
You dont have time to respond to other posts but you have time to start another thread.
Do you not want to respond to the other thread you started today?
p.s sorry for hijacking your thread- peace
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
i made a three way call, i had a family member on the other line.
i had told this person about the wtbs/un thing to which they stated, "bullshit.
i first called headquarters, they put me through to patterson.
Could you tell me more about what you told your sister before the actual phone call.
I know all to well about
THE WALL
I deal with it everyday.
You are right i dont know you very well,
your probally one of the people who thought that I was a troll, no biggy though.
xoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
How long were you at it with your sister.
The kind of questions you asked before the call and the notes you had at hand that is the sort of thing i would like to know.
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
i made a three way call, i had a family member on the other line.
i had told this person about the wtbs/un thing to which they stated, "bullshit.
i first called headquarters, they put me through to patterson.
I think that mabe you went about it the wrong way.
When I told my gf about it I made shure that she knew the importance of them joining.
I made shure that she knew that they condemned others for doing the same very thing.
Even though I knew that it may not have had much effect on her doubting the truth I knew that I would give me credibility.
The purpose of diveluging such information is to show that the WTBS is capable of being hypocritical and that everything that you say about them is a lie.
Believe it or not I would think that you would have made a better impact if your sister got really upset when you told her about it.
That has probally just been filed away in her little book of "apostate propaganda."
If you had cornered her by showing the significance of them becoming an NGO than that would have upset her and probally cause her to think.
I only have one question for you
How well did you prepare for this incounter.
Talking to a witness needs preparation, as you would know.
It is to give credibility to your argument that they puropsely hide information from you.
I wish you luck in the future.
jerome
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
what films and tv shows couldn't you watch when you were a witness kid?.
i remmember being banded from watching scooby doo, ghostbusters ,e.t., (some british ones)count duckula, rent a ghost, well basicly anything with ghosts in it.. my parents wouldn't watch any films with much swearing in them, especially the f-word.. which is fair enought.but i don't notice swearing so sometimes i recommend a film without realising its got lots of naughty words.. sometimes a very sensitive brother from the hall would come round to visit, and he would be visably shocked if there was any sex or swearing in a tv programme which often made it embarassing when watching tv when he was round.. once when we had some friends round and we got waynes world out on video, a couple of the brothers walked out as they thought it too worldly.
You know that I was never a witness but I have some to add.
CHARMED
WITCH BLADE
NINJA TURTLES----> kungfu
SUPERMAN---->Jehovah will save the world not the man os steel
BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
YOUNG AND RESTLESS
MELROSE PLACE
DAYS OF OUR LIVES-----> Big no no
I can think of more but I have to go.
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
some of the signatures here say that jw are a moneykollecting company, it is very hard to think.
if you compare to other religions as mormons for exampel it is a bigg diffrens.if we where out for the money we could use other methodes much better.. i think that i never se any form of evedens on this.. so if some here have this, show it.
happy man
How much exactly do you know about the history of your church?
Please click on this link.
http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com
It is operated by an apostate but then again so is this one.
So I dont think that you should have any fear about going to this site as you are already participating on an active messageboard devoted to informing the public about the error of your Churches ways.
If you ever think about criticizing any other church for beleiving that Jesus is God then i think that you should have a look into your organisations past regarding the trinity.
( Do not make the assumption that I mean that your Church taught the trinity in its early beginnings and you dont need to look into it because it was old light.)
There is a certain scripture in the Bible that refers to the Deity of christ which the WTBS has not altered.
And their views on the intrepretation of that scripture has changed many times in the past.
Find out what it is.
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
People have concluded that your organisation is not the truth through alot of sole searching and examination of the facts.
This website contains most of the facts that you will nead to bake an accurate judgement on the WTBS regarding
Prophecy
Changing History
False Medical teachings
Erroneous intrepretations of the bible
and a host of others.
When people on this board tell you that you have been lied to all along by the WBTS they have proof supporting that claim.
Even if you talk to Friday he will tell you that he does not believe every thing that they teach. Even thought he still believes that they are the truth.
Do not let pride cloud your judgment, take the time to lookint matters fully.
then come to your own conclusion. God did not give you a brain to let it be controlled by people whom are no better than yourself.
Listen to both sides of the story so that you can see and understand why so many people do not believe that it is the truth.
Use your time wisely.
jerome
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
satan's time lessens
the wts is the closest thing to the restoration of true worship that exists on the face of the earth today, all it needs now is to be perfected.
and it certainly has its enemies.
People here arent lying to you.
You have commonsense Friday. Use it.
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
i see that you are using jj as your photo and as you can see i use malcom x. just a question, are you a "man of color".
i just love that goofy phrase that the naacp adopted for black folks.
but serious though are you a black jw, for i am .
altavista is a much better search engine for that phrase
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
just remember this quote friday for according to your belief system you are not spiritually mature: .
today's watchtower lesson instructs witnesses not to think for themselves when it comes to bible understanding:.
augest 1, 2001, p. 14, par.
Friday
You should be the last person on this board to be pointing a finger at anyone on this board and insulting their intellegence.
I dont know how you could have been exposed to all of this negative info about the wt and still have faith in it as being from God Almighty, farless the only Channel from Him.
Think about it!
You have seen the
lies,
e.g. The destruction of Jesurlem was not 607. That date cannot be supported by any secular historical evidence and you know it.
Hypocrisy,
e.g. The organisation has Joined the UN after it has been condeming the rest of the world for doing the samething.
False teachings,
e.g. Blood transfusions are NOT scripturaly prohibited. And you know it.
Changing history,
e.g. 1914 was not the end of the Gentile times, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE END OF THE WORLD.
Information controll,
e.g. We donot enteritain apostate literature. And you know why.
Emotional controll,
e.g. Look how angry you get when someone has something negative to say about Gods Channel, even if it is true.
Behavioral controll,
A silly example would be that you are discouraged from going to the bathroom during meetings.
and still somehow still dont get it.
No ofence but it appears as if you have the reasonablity of a six year old. Normal people donot think that way.
When I see you admit to the following that they (THE WTBS) have been
lying,
false teaching,
phoney way to salvation
hypocritical
Farce of a Church
and are not the Truth
Then you can gain some credibility.
No need to tell me that i am wrong because
everything above can be verified as it is documented. From you own books.
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Friday let me share something with you.
Here it is.
It is not normal to think the way you do.
I am not the one to laydown what is normal from what is not after all everybody has their own mind.
But the way you think is conter productive to scoiety. People are here to lift up oneanother. Not point out the bad in others and condem.
You cannot justify your being that way by stating that you are no part of the world.
Do you think that you can justify everything that you donot take part of because the world will end soon. The 1914 date is a sham. Simple as that.
Friday could I borrow $10000 from you i'll give you it back just befor Armageddon, which should be soon.
I am not trying to insult you personally but I get really annoied at stupidity.
Look at the chance that you have got. Its all here laid out for you.
Do you know how lucky you are to be here?
The everyday person on the street will only tell you that your religion is a cult and wont be able to take the discussion any further. That dont have all the facts.
While here on this board people can sit down and tell you why your religion is false in detail.
They know all the good and they know all the bad.
You can nolonger use ignorance as an excuse.
Why would you want to continue to waste your life after all that you have seen posted here on this board.
That reiogion will get you nowhere and fast.
xoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxxxoxoxoxoxo
I would call you decieved but I cant. You have heard both sides of the story. So that would lead me to conclude that your reasoning capacity is seriously lacking. Or you could plead insanity.
Friday.
Why must you continue to defend the WTBS when they do not care about you. You are just a number, 1 out of the 7.5 mil.
I dont need to tell you to wake up and smell the stupidity.
People are here to help you. You cant get the help you need from that religion.
You have been lied to from the time you first steped into a kingdomhall. So you had an excuse back then for joining. You were not given a fair oppertunity to examin the situation.
But now you dont have a scape goat so what is your excuse?
Does the good outweigh the bad?
You are not someone to be looked down upon, not unless you allow yourself to be.
You have a chance to free yourself you got all the facts at your finger tips.
Now what do chose to do?
jerome
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
while surfing the net i discovered a website dedecated to defending the new world translation.
i posted the url in a pervious thread a few weeks ago but it dident get much attention.. well i am posting it here again so that everyone can see it.. .
in defence of the new world translation.. http://users.eggconnect.net/noddy3/pageindex.htm.
Keep up the good work.
At first the pole stood at over 50 percent of the voters thought that it was the best translation. Now it stands at only 30.** as he best.
Good work.
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
i went w/ my ex to the hall tonight, don't remember much except walking in, hiding in the bathroom for half hour, and dodging all the schmoozing when trying to exit the building.
i also remember my ex holding my hand and smiling at me.
it was a happy smile, like "i am so glad you're here w/ me", but it hinted of evil intentions.
I dont think that playing on his emotions will work so it dosent make any sense telling him that you are doing this for his own good.
When you do decide to try that ploy it may back fire at first. But then you could use the fact that he dident care enough to listen to you in the future.
You have been here for over a year so you should know what to do.
You know that you have to go slow, you know that what they teach only
appears to be right on the outside but when you lookinto it that it is never what it seemed to be. Even though i spend alot of time here I still have flashes of doubt that it isnt the truth. This site is my saftey net.
You got the info, you got the help.
I dont have much experience in relationships but it seems that you are in a good position to get him out.
Once you can get him to listen.
But like someone on the board once said, dont drop the dime if you anit got the time.
jerome -- former troll
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and it you may get hurt.
