Posts by bulgogiboy

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Does anyone else have a morbid obsession?

by bulgogiboy in

i have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine.

i think about death a lot, and if i really sit and think about it hard, i can freak myself out big time!

i dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.. perhaps i should be excited, because i realise that on the whole what i came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time i do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, i just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.. i have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!).

bulgogiboy

Freudianslip: I know exactly how you feel. Whilst the thought of death doesnt make me 'question' my agnosticism, it makes me feel slightly envious of people who are deluded by firm religious conviction. I refuse to force myself to believe in something just because it provides some false comfort though. I would be betraying my conscience if I did that. Just keep in mind that people with fundamentalist mindsets are in exactly the same position as us, they just dont know it .

I think the fear of death is what causes a lot of people to miraculously 'find faith', especially later on in life... I think fake it til you make it is good advice, ive been following that motto for quite a few years now.

And also, in my opinion, anti-depressants are highly questionable. Research results recently published have provided some quite compelling evidence to suggest that they are little more than placebos. I dont know where the answer is, but it isnt in any bottle of pills or alcohol. In fact, im pretty sure there is no 'answer' ,and that includes gentle Jesus meek and mild, the best we can do is lead a good life I suppose...

I'm going to try to find something positive in every part of my life from now on.

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Where is the best place in the world to live?

by highdose in

jw
friends

could be just a whim, but highdoses feet are feeling itchy today.

i'm young, unattached was thinking about upping sticks again maybe.. .

can i get any recomendations from anyone?.

bulgogiboy

New Hampshire has no income or sales tax?? Why doesnt all of America want to live there??

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Where is the best place in the world to live?

by highdose in

jw
friends

could be just a whim, but highdoses feet are feeling itchy today.

i'm young, unattached was thinking about upping sticks again maybe.. .

can i get any recomendations from anyone?.

bulgogiboy

France has been ranked number 1 in the best places to live list for at least a couple of times in a row now and its no surprise: good food and drink, nice weather, an excellent national healthcare system and beautiful sexually-liberated women . I've been to France about 6 times, and it's really nice. You would need to learn French fairly well if you wanted to live there for any length of time though, the French have as much patience for Brits/Yanks who can't speak their language as we have for them if they can't. I think Malta would be pretty nice too, even warmer sunnier weather, top-notch free healthcare, but they speak English.

Canada ranks well too, although depending on where you're moving from it might seem rather unexotic, especially if you are just moving over the border!

Switzerland has quite a few cities up there as well, I've only been there briefly (1 day to be exact!) but it did seem really lovely nonetheless.

The best way to find work is if you get a Cambridge English teaching certificate (CELTA) you'll be able to see quite a few different places with that, even more so if you have a uni degree or two, that's what I did!

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Does anyone else have a morbid obsession?

by bulgogiboy in

i have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine.

i think about death a lot, and if i really sit and think about it hard, i can freak myself out big time!

i dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.. perhaps i should be excited, because i realise that on the whole what i came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time i do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, i just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.. i have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!).

bulgogiboy

Hey, I'm 30, and thanks for your advice. I never pay attention to adverts like that so I didnt notice...

And I think that's more than 5 lbs of stomach fat between the two pics! More like 55!

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Proof of Rutherford as an alcoholic... where do i look

by Aussie Oz in

where do i look for actual documented proof that rutherford was an alcoholic, and that he got it in from canada during prohibition?.

cheers.

oz.

bulgogiboy

Aussie Oz: You arent being anal at all, I really commend your attitude towards finding out facts for yourself.

Not investigating facts stringently enough was what got me into shit with the jws in the first place, I therefore find it very hard to take things on authority. I feel like an ass believing in what may possibly be unsubstantiated hearsay or incorrectly recorded and correlated findings. Even if 100 of the world's greatest scientists tell me evolution is fact, I choose to remain skeptical, and that's not because I am anti-evolution or believe it's definitely untrue, it's simply because I know my personal level of knowledge is lacking in this area, and simply taking 'the experts' on their word makes me uncomfortable.

I dont think the average jw would give a damn if Rutherford was a boozehound, considering the nonchalant attitude towards binge-drinking in general within the jw org, but if it's for your own personal interest and finding out the truth about it helps you and/or your family in some way then good luck!

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Does anyone else have a morbid obsession?

by bulgogiboy in

i have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine.

i think about death a lot, and if i really sit and think about it hard, i can freak myself out big time!

i dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.. perhaps i should be excited, because i realise that on the whole what i came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time i do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, i just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.. i have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!).

bulgogiboy

I have to admit to having developed a very strong obsession with my own mortality in recent years, since breaking free from jw doctrine. I think about death a lot, and if I really sit and think about it hard, I can freak myself out big time! I dont want to think about it, and outwardly its not apparent to other people, but it is something that seems to pervade my thinking, something that haunts me.

Perhaps I should be excited, because I realise that on the whole what I came to believe as a jw was fabricated, and maybe there is an amazing afterlife to experience, but at the same time I do tend to agree with jws about death being the end, I just dont agree with the whole resurrection claim they add on to it.

I have known two people who were temporarily 'dead' on the operating table, one of whom was dead for several minutes(one of these people is a friend who shrugs it off like it was nothing!). Both these people claim they saw and heard nothing, as if they were asleep. This tends to be how I view death. It terrifies me. Is this terror of oblivion the true root of all religion? Is this what causes otherwise intelligent people to be hopelessly enveloped in fundamentalist denial?

Can anyone give me any words of hope and comfort that aren't Jesus-related? How can I best deal with this morbid obsession?

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watchtower site on Facebook, ,,is this stuff for real ?

by lancelink in

i was looking over the watchtower site on facebook this evening, and was just mesmerized by many of the posts.this stuff can't be real (can it)?

nelson birdwell ?

it's like something out of mad magazine, or better yet the onion !.

bulgogiboy

Haha, the first post seemed to sound like bona fide jw drivel, then it quickly becomes apparent that at least the 3 main posters are taking the mickey. The scary thing is though, if you go to that group on facebook and look at some of the postings from (who I believe to be) real jehooberists, you'll be struggling to tell the difference between sincere expressions and parodies....I've seen on different posts, the word 'apostate' is used in such a blaze fashion, I wonder how many jws actually know what the word means?

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Okkkkk...you MESS with my kids and you MESS WITH ME JWs!!!

by WuzLovesDubs in

i have soooo had it with these assholes...sooooo had it!!

my daughter who is 19 is pre-engaged to a wonderful 20 year old guy who treats her like a princess.

he lives with us to both help me with the rent and for them to save some money for their future.

bulgogiboy

Jackie, you slept naked in a bed with a man on a first date with him because you were 'too tired' to worry about getting home? You must be an idiot doing that with a man you hardly know, you could have been raped.

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Interesting story

by bulgogiboy in

ok this isnt my own personal experience but its an experience of someone else's that i read in a paper.

basically her parents were taken from her by the borg.. here's the link if anyone is interested:.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250078/the-knock-door-turned-parents-brainwashed-fanatics--nearly-cost-life.html.

bulgogiboy

Why is it "tripe"? I thought the woman's story was quite interesting.

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Anyone on this board who was/is in my old congregation?

by bulgogiboy in

hey all,.

i'm really keen to hear from anyone who was or still is in my old kh at st.andrews in scotland.

if anyone is still in and wants to chat without the risk of being identified thats fine, we can talk anonymously.... failing that, i'm keen to speak to anyone from scotland who knew/knows the jws at st.andrews kh.. .

bulgogiboy

Lifelong humanist: John, thanks for your reply. Can I first give my sincere condolences for the loss of your daughter, I've never had kids myself but I'm sure that kind of pain never truly goes away.

And regarding the Williamsons, you mean you only met 1 'nutter' family at St.Ands KH?? I knew of several hehe I left quite a few years before Jimmy Boyd passed away, didnt really know him very well. His son Jonathan always seemed like a decent sort, I got on ok with him.

You helped run a book shop? A book shop with books not published by the WTBTS? Absolutely shameful, I hope you didnt actually read any of them?? Hehe

St.Ands is a lovely town for sure, I just finished my masters there a few months ago, and made good use of the pub and restaurant facilities(I still do sometimes too!). Would be good if we could meet up next time you're up there, although i'm quite keen on avoiding anyone else you're with if they are going to give me daggers and scream "apostate" at me

As for Turkey, I'd be really happy to give you some info on it. I lived there for over 18 months, took a course in Turkish language alongside working(as well as studying hard at home) got engaged to a very well-educated and liberal Turkish girl from a wealthy family (and then later separated -long story) and did my masters thesis on the issues surrounding Turkish secularism, nationalism and political Islam. I dont think i'm being arrogant in saying that I know more about Turkey than the average Westerner. The place I know best is Ankara, the capital, where I lived, but I also spent some time in Istanbul and Marmaris on the Aegean coast, and I taught students and dated girls from all over Turkey so I know a fair amount about different cities just from listening to the Turks talk about them.

I think I can give you a good all-round evaluation of life in Turkey, and I'm keen to hear more about you too, so just pm me and we can chat on msn or facebook if you like .

Iknowall: Sorry, I dont Know Paul Barrie, I havent been along to the KH for almost 8 yrs. If you went every year for quite a while then it's more than likely we brushed past each other in the KH!

The name of the restaurant is 'Ziggys', and they do really good burgers, dont they? I was just in there ar new year for lunch, its a lovely little place.