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"You Will Know The Truth!" With Addition!
by wannabe in"you will know the truth!".
with addition!.
it is common knowledge today that the governing body of the watchtower society, has established a record of, bare minimun, at least 130 years of failed predictions and false propecies; yet even in the face of that, claim they are not false prophets.
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"You Will Know The Truth!" With Addition!
by wannabe in"you will know the truth!".
with addition!.
it is common knowledge today that the governing body of the watchtower society, has established a record of, bare minimun, at least 130 years of failed predictions and false propecies; yet even in the face of that, claim they are not false prophets.
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"You will know the Truth!"
With Addition!
It is common knowledge today that the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society, has established a record of, bare minimun, at least 130 years of failed predictions and false Propecies; yet even in the face of that, claim they are not False Prophets. Reasonably, would a true Prophet of Jehovah God establish a record that long, of scriptural Errors, and Blunders? Would a true Prophet have to keep changing his teachings back and forth to the point, nothing but confusion was created, in the minds of their followers?
They will maintain that they are God's Organization! God's mouthpiece! God's Spirit Directed Organization. That they are the Temple Class! That their Watchtower Magazine is Jehovah's principle teaching instrument. That they are the Mother of all Christian's in their ranks. That the anointed Brothers of Christ are in their midst. That the Bible is a Book open to only them to understand. To everyone else it is sealed Book. Only they understand the Bible! That there is no protection for us outside of their Organization. On and on it goes, with these high and lofty claims, until it gets very wearisome to listen to.
Since, as they say, they are God's Organization, how do they account for this long record of failure to teach the real truth of the Bile? How do they account for all of their scriptural errors if, as they say, they are 'Spirit Directed?' Would Jehovah's Holy Spirit really lead them along a path of error, failed predictions and false prophecies? Consider something Jesus told his early followers:
32"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."{John 8:32 NIV}
Reason on this for a moment! Is a 130 year record of failed predictions and false prophecies, really the truth, that Jesus said his followers would know? Was they really to be Spirit Directed, as they claim that they are; in the light of what the Bible teaches about the having the guidance and direction of the Holy Spirit, would it even be possible to establish a record such as they have, of so many errors and blunders? We will learn that it definitely is not even possible to establish a record such as theirs. Absolutely, and positively, not! My intention now, is to show that it is not Jehovah's Holy Spirit that has been guiding and directing them at all, it is the spirit of satan the devil, trying to do what he does best. Mislead everyone in their ranks into believing the lie! To date, he's done an excellent job, for now, there are seven Million misled ones going door-to-door in a work not authorized by Jehovah. With another seventeen Million on the side-lines, showing interest in that Organization. Up to this point, satan is doing very well at his work of misleading; as we might expect him to. We will now learn, how one can come to know the real truth of the Bible: beginning with John 14:15-17:
15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever. 17 He is the Spirit of truth. The world is unable to receive Him because it doesn't see Him or know Him. But you do know Him, because He remains with you and will be in you."{John 14:15-17{HCSB}
With this first scripture, we see the reason for that long record of falsehoods! The Governing Body, even though they claim to be Spirit Directed, has not been able to receive the Holy Spirit! They do not see him or know him, because they are as much a part of this World as anyone else is, even though they claim they are 'no part of this World.' Notice though, some would be able to receive of the Holy Spirit. Some would know him, and he would be with them, and in them. Being as it is the Spirit of the Truth, those that had it in them, would naturally come to know the truth and would speak the truth without error. I will go on to show, how that comes to be:
26"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.27And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning."{John 15:26,27NIV}
Notice the Spirit of the Truth goes out from the Father, and we know for a fact Jehovah would never lie, or tell a half truth! Coming directly from Jehovah, it would be truth like no one has ever told it, bcause 'it is impossible for God to lie,' so said the Apostle Paul! {Hebrews 6:18} {Titus 1:2} From that it should be obvious That establishing that 130 year record would be virtually impossible with the Spirit of the truth upon you. Showing it was not, and is not, now, upon them. Digging deeper:
26 "But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." {John14:26 NIV}
Now, if the Governing Body, didn't understand a teaching, and they truly was God's Organization, could not Jesus by means of the Holy Spirit, remind them about the truth of the matter, and teach them ALL THINGS? I certainly think he could!
13"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come." {John 16:13 NIV}
Struggling as they are now with so many teachings they just don't uderstand, cannot the Holy Spirit was it to be upon them, guide them into all truth, even reveal to them what is to come, in the future? Now, if they had all truth, and after over 130 years in operation, should by now was the Spirit really to have been upon them, wouldn't they know by now which generation it was that was not to pass away, but see all things fulfilled? Why do they right up intil this very moment in time, not know that? The answer is obvious, isn't it?
Let me tie this all up with one last scripture, that will clearly show the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society, is definitely not what they make claim to being:
27 "The anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you don't need anyone to teach you. Instead, His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie; just as it has taught you, remain in Him." {1John 2:27 HCSB}
From that, it doesn't take a Rocket - Scientist to know beyond any doubt at all, that they are not God's Organization at all. Was that to be true, they would by now know all things, and they would be making no errors in their presentations of the truth, because there is no room for error when anointed and taught by the Holy Spirit. They would know which generation it was that was not to pass away; they would know all of the end time prophecies! Why is it they do not? Simple answer eh? They do not know the truth!
Of course this does not just apply to the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society alone, but to the entire empire of false Religion on this earth today. The ones John likened to Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Harlots and disgusting things of the earth; the ones resonsible for all those slaughtered on the earth, drunk with the Blood of the witnesses of Jesus:
4"The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus." {Revelation 17:4-6 NIV}We know that these are Religious Organizations because of the words of Jesus to the Jews in his day: Which words was:
33"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 I tell you the truth, all this will come upon THIS generation." {Matthew 23:33-36 NIV}
Lacking the Holy Spirit as Religious Christendom does, we find teachings like the Trinity Doctrine, the Immortality of the Human Soul teaching- torment in a fiery hot place called Hell. What else could they teach? Lacking the Holy Spirit as they do, they would never know the real truth of the Bible, so couldn't teach anything else but false-hoods. They should know though that Jehovah has his limits of patience, and sooner or later, have to run out, as we see they will in 2 Chronicles:
"And Jehovah the God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up early and sending; because he had compassion on his people and on his dwelling-place. 16 But they mocked at the messengers of God, and despised his words, and scoffed at his prophets, until the fury of Jehovah rose against his people, and there was no remedy."{2 Chronicles 36:15,16 DT}
Had they of known the truth, they would have known that 'no lie originates with the truth.' As their teachings all are! All lies! {1 John2:21}
Jehovah will reach a point of anger until there will be no remedy for them, to quell it. What happened to the Place of Worship of the Jews? General Titus leading the Roman Army tore their place of worship apart; until there was 'not a stone left upon a stone,' just as Jesus predicted, so it was. {Matthew 24:1,2} Just as certainly it will occur with Religious Christendom! Babylon the Great will utterly be exterminated by the Political Elements of this World, just as Jesus predicted in the Revelation account. {Revelation 17:16-18} Now you know the Truth! Shiner
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"You Will Know The Truth!"
by wannabe in"you will know the truth!".
it is common knowledge today that the governing body of the watchtower society, has established a record of, bare minimun, at least 130 years of failed predictions and false propecies; yet even in the face of that, claim they are not false prophets.
reasonably, would a true prophet of jehovah god establish a record that long, of scriptural errors, and blunders?
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"You will know the Truth!"
It is common knowledge today that the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society, has established a record of, bare minimun, at least 130 years of failed predictions and false Propecies; yet even in the face of that, claim they are not False Prophets. Reasonably, would a true Prophet of Jehovah God establish a record that long, of scriptural Errors, and Blunders? Would a true Prophet have to keep changing his teachings back and forth to the point, nothing but confusion was created, in the minds of their followers?
They will maintain that they are God's Organization! God's mouthpiece! God's Spirit Directed Organization. That they are the Temple Class! That their Watchtower Magazine is Jehovah's principle teaching instrument. That they are the Mother of all Christian's in their ranks. That the anointed Brothers of Christ are in their midst. That the Bible is a Book open to only them to understand. To everyone else it is sealed Book. Only they understand the Bible! That there is no protection for us outside of their Organization. On and on it goes, with these high and lofty claims, until it gets very wearisome to listen to.
Since, as they say, they are God's Organization, how do they account for this long record of failure to teach the real truth of the Bile? How do they account for all of their scriptural errors if, as they say, they are 'Spirit Directed?' Would Jehovah's Holy Spirit really lead them along a path of error, failed predictions and false prophecies? Consider something Jesus told his early followers:
32"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."{John 8:32 NIV}
Reason on this for a moment! Is a 130 year record of failed predictions and false prophecies, really the truth, that Jesus said his followers would know? Was they really to be Spirit Directed, as they claim that they are; in the light of what the Bible teaches about the having the guidance and direction of the Holy Spirit, would it even be possible to establish a record such as they have, of so many errors and blunders? We will learn that it definitely is not even possible to establish a record such as theirs. Absolutely, and positively, not! My intention now, is to show that it is not Jehovah's Holy Spirit that has been guiding and directing them at all, it is the spirit of satan the devil, trying to do what he does best. Mislead everyone in their ranks into believing the lie! To date, he's done an excellent job, for now, there are seven Million misled ones going door-to-door in a work not authorized by Jehovah. With another seventeen Million on the side-lines, showing interest in that Organization. Up to this point, satan is doing very well at his work of misleading; as we might expect him to. We will now learn, how one can come to know the real truth of the Bible: beginning with John 14:15-17:
15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever. 17 He is the Spirit of truth. The world is unable to receive Him because it doesn't see Him or know Him. But you do know Him, because He remains with you and will be in you."{John 14:15-17{HCSB}
With this first scripture, we see the reason for that long record of falsehoods! The Governing Body, even though they claim to be Spirit Directed, has not been able to receive the Holy Spirit! They do not see him or know him, because they are as much a part of this World as anyone else is, even though they claim they are 'no part of this World.' Notice though, some would be able to receive of the Holy Spirit. Some would know him, and he would be with them, and in them. Being as it is the Spirit of the Truth, those that had it in them, would naturally come to know the truth and would speak the truth without error. I will go on to show, how that comes to be:
26"When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.27And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning."{John 15:26,27NIV}
Notice the Spirit of the Truth goes out from the Father, and we know for a fact Jehovah would never lie, or tell a half truth! Coming directly from Jehovah, it would be truth like no one has ever told it, bcause 'it is impossible for God to lie,' so said the Apostle Paul! {Hebrews 6:18} {Titus 1:2} From that it should be obvious That establishing that 130 year record would be virtually impossible with the Spirit of the truth upon you. Showing it was not, and is not, now, upon them. Digging deeper:
26 "But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." {John14:26 NIV}
Now, if the Governing Body, didn't understand a teaching, and they truly was God's Organization, could not Jesus by means of the Holy Spirit, remind them about the truth of the matter, and teach them ALL THINGS? I certainly think he could!
13"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come." {John 16:13 NIV}
Struggling as they are now with so many teachings they just don't uderstand, cannot the Holy Spirit was it to be upon them, guide them into all truth, even reveal to them what is to come, in the future? Now, if they had all truth, and after over 130 years in operation, should by now was the Spirit really to have been upon them, wouldn't they know by now which generation it was that was not to pass away, but see all things fulfilled? Why do they right up intil this very moment in time, not know that? The answer is obvious, isn't it?
Let me tie this all up with one last scripture, that will clearly show the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society, is definitely not what they make claim to being:
27 "The anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you don't need anyone to teach you. Instead, His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie; just as it has taught you, remain in Him." {1John 2:27 HCSB}
From that, it doesn't take a Rocket - Scientist to know beyond any doubt at all, that they are not God's Organization at all. Was that to be true, they would by now know all things, and they would be making no errors in their presentations of the truth, because there is no room for error when anointed and taught by the Holy Spirit. They would know which generation it was that was not to pass away; the would know all of the end time prophecies! Why is it they do not? Simple answer eh? They do not know the truth!
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He Forgives and Forgets!
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He Forgives and Forgets!
How many times have we heard it said: "I'll foregive, but I won't forget?" Would we say that's the kind of foregiveness Jehovah wishes for us to extend? To not forget some wrong done to us, would that not mean that we're still harboring some resentment, for that wrong done to us? If it's still in your mind, because you're not forgetting it, would you not still be brooding over it? Wouldn't true foregiveness, from our hearts, mean, that we've wiped the wrong done, out of our minds, so that it's completly forgotten about? Things are now as they were before the wrong was done? When we personally, ourselves, need foregiveness for something that we've done wrong to someone else, perhaps even a very close friend; would we be happy at hearing: "Yes!" I'll forgive you, but I won't forget it." Would there not always be, uncertainty about whether the friendship is still as it was before? Perhaps much discomfort while associating together?
Jesus gave a parable that underscored the need for foregiveness from the heart in the following words:
23"Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. 25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.
26"The servant fell on his knees before him. 'Be patient with me,' he begged, 'and I will pay back everything.' 27The servant's master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.
28"But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii. He grabbed him and began to choke him. 'Pay back what you owe me!' he demanded.
29"His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, 'Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.'
30"But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were greatly distressed and went and told their master everything that had happened.
32"Then the master called the servant in. 'You wicked servant,' he said, 'I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn't you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?' 34 In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.
35"This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart." {Matthew 18:23-35NIV}
So, foregiving but not forgetting would not, in the least, be favorable to Jehovah. To harbour something in your mind, is not foregiveness from the heart, now is it?
How far was this foregiveness we are supposed to extend to go?
This next scripture will answer that:
3 "So watch yourselves. "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4 If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him." 5 The apostles said to the Lord, "Increase our faith!" {Luke 17:3-5 NIV}
I know! That's a bit of a stinger, isn't it? There should be no end to the foregiveness we extend, as long as repentance for the bad act is shown. Of course true repentence requires works that befits repentence. So the one seeking foregiveness must give evidence that he/she is truly sorry for the wrong act done to us,and prove that repentence by their works, as in the following:
20 "First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds."{Acts 26:20 NIV}
8 "Produce fruit in keeping with repentance."{Matthew 3:8 NIV}
Much more than a simple apology is needed, from that.
As sinful humans we may have great trouble in foregiving the wrongs of others, but the one who expects us to forgive others set the greatest example of foregiveness, anyone might imagine; as seen from this account in Acts:
13 "The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. 14 You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you. 15 You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this. 16 By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus' name and the faith that comes through him that has given this complete healing to him, as you can all see.
17"Now, brothers, I know that you acted in ignorance, as did your leaders. 18 But this is how God fulfilled what he had foretold through all the prophets, saying that his Christ would suffer. 19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, 20 and that he may send the Christ, who has been appointed for you—even Jesus." {Acts 3:13-20 NIV}
These ones Peter was talking to, had murdered the Christ, the Son of God, and yet in Jehovah's great mercy, foregiveness was extended to them, even for the murder of God's Son. They were offered opportunity to repent so as to get their sins wiped away.
Does that not show the depth of God's Mercy? Do we sometimes feel unworthy, perhaps thinking; "Oh! I'm not good enough! Jehovah will never foregive all my sins!" If he could foregive the murder of his dear Son, who he loved so very much, and had to watch him die a cruel death, for the sake of all of us, would he with-hold his foregiveness from someone who really wanted his foregiveness, and displayed repentence for his/her sins? Never would he with-hold his foregiveness, after offering his only Son to save our lives. That flys in the face of all reason, does it not?
Look what he tells us in Isaiah the Prophet:
18 "Come now, let us reason together, saith Jehovah: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." {Isaiah 1:18 DT}
Does that sound like a God who is unforegiving?
Do we believe that Jehovah doesn't know we will fall into sin at times? We shouldn't believe that because he knows we will, and has as much has said so in the following verse of scripture:
20 "Not a single person on earth is always good and never sins." {Ecclesiastes 7:20 NLT} Do you have some weakness of the flesh that causes you to sin from time, to time? Don't feel bad! Don't we all? Didn't the Apostle Paul chosen for the heavenly high calling? Consider his words, and see if you can relate to Paul, and what he says in the following: By the way, the entire human race can relate to Paul, if that is, they are as honest as he was here:
15 "I don’t really understand myself, for I want to do what is right, but I don’t do it. Instead, I do what I hate. 16 But if I know that what I am doing is wrong, this shows that I agree that the law is good. 17 So I am not the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it.
18 And I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. I want to do what is right, but I can’t. 19 I want to do what is good, but I don’t. I don’t want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway. 20 But if I do what I don’t want to do, I am not really the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it.
21 I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. 22 I love God’s law with all my heart. 23 But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me." {Romans 7:15-23 NLT}
Did you pick up on what Paul said? There was a power within him, at War with his mind, leading him as a Slave to sin. How does that power come to be, in the first place, since all of us can relate to what Paul said here? Note the following:
12 "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, in this way death spread to all men, because all sinned." {Romans 5:12 HCSB}
23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." {Romans 3:23 HCSB}
Does anyone suppose that Jehovah doesn't know about Mans sinful condition? Who has told us all of this thus far? These are not my own words; they are the inspired words of Jehovah God letting us all know that he knows whats wrong with all of Mankind, and he's taken measures to correct it by sending his only Son to die for all of us, so that the sin will be overcome, and we all might have abundant life, as was his original, purpose, in the garden of eden. Consisdering everything thus far, do we suppose that Jehovah watches our every move looking for the times we do sin? Why would he? He already knows we will, and do. He's as much as told us all that, has he not? Note what the Psalmist has to say about these errors we will make:
3-4 If you, God, kept records on wrongdoings,
who would stand a chance?
As it turns out, forgiveness is your habit,
and that's why you're worshiped." {Psalm 130:3TM}Jehovah is here telling us that if he recorded every wrongdoing that people may commit, no one would be able to stand. None would stand a chance, at life. If we believe we are sinful, look what King David had to say about his own sins:
4 "For my sins have flooded over my head;
they are a burden too heavy for me to bear." {Psalm 38:4HCSB}12 "For troubles surround me—
too many to count!
My sins pile up so high
I can’t see my way out.
They outnumber the hairs on my head.
I have lost all courage." {Psalm 40:12 NLT}What did King David do when he had sinned? The following:
5 "Finally, I confessed all my sins to you
and stopped trying to hide my guilt.
I said to myself, "I will confess my rebellion to the Lord."
And you forgave me! All my guilt is gone." {Psalm 32:5 NLT}Can we do any less than David did? What happens when we do that? Jehovah forgave David for his honest confession. Why then will he not forgive us, when we sin, and we will!? The following shows us he definitely will:
9 "He will not constantly accuse us,
nor remain angry forever.
10 He does not punish us for all our sins;
he does not deal harshly with us, as we deserve.
11 For his unfailing love toward those who fear him
is as great as the height of the heavens above the earth.
12 He has removed our sins as far from us
as the east is from the west.
13 The Lord is like a father to his children,
tender and compassionate to those who fear him.
14 For he knows how weak we are;
he remembers we are only dust." Psalm 103: 9-14 NLT}After reading that, how could we ever doubt Jehovah will forgive us when we fall into sin as King David did, and of course will at times. Everyone does! How do we know that when Jehovah forgives he forgets? Bacause of the following:
34 "And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know Jehovah; for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith Jehovah: for I will pardon their iniquity, and their sin will I remember no more."{Jeremiah 31:34 DT}
Those that feel that they are righteous, and really don't need foregivness, might well remember the words of Jesus, when he said:
11 "When the Pharisees saw this, they asked His disciples, "Why does your Teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?"
12 But when He heard this, He said, "Those who are well don't need a doctor, but the sick do. 13 Go and learn what this means: I desire mercy and not sacrifice. For I didn't come to call the righteous, but sinners" {Matthew 9 :11-14 HCSB}
I can say in all honesty! I fill the Bill here! How about you? I need that mercy as badly as anyone does! I need my sins forgiven and forgotten, and like the God that I worship, I'm willing to forgive and forget, as he does! So should you be! Should you not? Wannabe
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How would they come to learn the truth of the Bible?
by wannabe inhow would they come to learn the truth of the bible?.
as one examines the teachings of religious christendom, it becomes clear to the examiner, that they know little, or nothing about the real truth of the bible!
how would they learn it should they ever decide to do so?
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How would they come to learn the truth of the Bible?
As one examines the teachings of Religious Christendom, it becomes clear to the examiner, that they know little, or nothing about the real truth of the Bible! How would they learn it should they ever decide to do so? This writing is designed to aid them in doing that, should they ever wish to.
Has anyone ever wondered why the Mainline Religions of this World teach that the Holy Spirit, is a Person, when the entire Bible teaches us that it is Jehovah`s awesome power; and at the same time will fight you to the death over the issuse of taking in Blood from Blood Transfusions? When that, is condemned in the Bible? Why are they so ignorant of what the Bible tells us on so many matters? They, quite clearly, have a very serious problem! What might that be? Why would they believe the Holy Spirit is a third person of a Trinity of God's, while the Bible itself doesn't support their beliefs? Why do they not get the sense of the seriousness of violating the Law on the taking of Blood?
The Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ, will explain what the problem is, in these following words of his:
15 "If you love me, obey my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you. 17 He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn’t looking for him and doesn’t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now, and later will be in you." {John 14:15-17 NLT}
Even though the Trinitarians will tell us, that the Holy Spirit is a person, they quite clearly do not know their Bibles; otherwise they would remain silent about that teaching. If they really knew their Bibles, and knew about what Jesus had said, about the World not being able to receive of the Holy Spirit, because it isn't looking for him, and wouldn't recognize him even if they was to find him, that teaching would not exist. How would anyone be able to explain, something they don't understand, or recognize themselves? Something they couldn't even receive themselves?
Just how is it the Holy Spirit would work on these ones was they really able to receive it, know it, and understand it? How would they receive it, in the first place? By doing the following:
32 "We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."{Acts 5:32 NIV}
From that, the first step is being willing to obey God! Something else is needed on top of that! What is that, you may ask?
As previously discussed: the following is needed!
15 "If you love me, obey my commandments. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you. 17 He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn’t looking for him and doesn’t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you. {John 14:15-17 NLT}
If we are willing to obey both the Father, as well, the one he sent, then Jesus will do his part and ask his Father to give of the Holy Spirit; but it will only be given to those ones who are willing to obey both the Father and the Son. If, and when, that does occur, the one receiving of it will be led into all truth.
Anyone who ever balks at a command given in the Bible, the Holy Spirit would then be withdrawn, and that undividual whoever he/she may be, would fall back into the darkness of the World around them. One of the things that is balked at quite frequently, is Jehovah's Law on the Blood! These ones who are doing that balking, are failing to get the sense of just how important this obedience really is, as this next scripture will highlite:
28 "For it was the Holy Spirit's decision—and ours—to put no greater burden on you than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from food offered to idols, from blood, from eating anything that has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these things, you will do well." {Acts 15:28,29 HCSB} Farewell.
If one feels, he/she can violate even one of these commands, they may just as well violate all of them, because even with just one, the damage is already done. Why! Take a close look at that scripture, and notice firstly it was a decision of the Holy Spirits, so violate any one of them you are committing the sin against the Holy Spirit, for which there is no foregiveness forever. Some may think, "Oh! If I don't take a blood transfusion I may die!" True! You just might! What is more important though? A few miserable years in this life with all of the deseases and illnesses common to man, with old-age bringing you to such a condition that you begin wishing you were dead; or everlasting life on a paradise earth, with no more death- no more desease, no more ill-health; but youth like you've never dreamed it posible to be? To take Blood, because of fear of death, what kind of a trade-off is that? Forfieting everlasting life for a few more years in a doomed system of things, is no trade-off at all, for my money!
Think too, of what it means to gain the Holy Spirit, as far as knowledge of God is concerned. Could you learn about his will and ways without the Holy Spirit? Don't forget, we are told in the Bible, 'who that does the will of God remains forever.' {1 John 2:17} But this World is "passing away."
These Trinitarians, who themselves, do not understand their own teaching, or cannot properly explain it to others; or those that balk at Jehovah's Law on the Blood, or any Law of Jehovah's, for that matter, should consider very seriously what they are forfeiting, by lacking the Holy Spirit; as in the following:
26 "But when the Father sends the Advocate as my representative—that is, the Holy Spirit—he will teach you everything and will remind you of everything I have told you."{John 14:26 NLT} Can you imagine? Knowing everything that Jesus taught? Everything about his Father, that he knew? Even more as well! Note the following:
13 "When the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all the truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak whatever He hears. He will also declare to you what is to come." {John 16:13 HCSB}
Imagine knowing all Truth? Even learning about that which is still to come in the future? Would you give that all up for a teaching that isn't even Bible based? Or even for refusing a Blood Transfusion, because you believed your life was threatened? There is yet even more:
27"As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him."{ 1 John 2:27 NIV}
Imagine too, not needing anyone to teach you the Bible, because you have been anointed by Holy Spirit, that will be with you forever? As Jesus said in the following:
16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever, 17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you." {John 14:16,17 ASV}
If this Holy Spirit is with us forever, would mean of necessity, that we would have to exist forever, would it not? Even more yet!
10 "Now God has revealed them to us by the Spirit, for the Spirit searches everything, even the deep things of God." {1 Corinthians 2:10 HCSB}
Who in their right mind would give up all this? Knowing even the deep things of God? One more!
1 "My son, if thou wilt receive my words, And lay up my commandments with thee;
2 So as to incline thine ear unto wisdom, And apply thy heart to understanding;
3 Yea, if thou cry after discernment, And lift up thy voice for understanding;
4 If thou seek her as silver, And search for her as for hid treasures:
5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of Jehovah, And find the knowledge of God." {Proverbs 2:1-5 ASV} Just how though do we do this? By following this next advice:
15"Practice and cultivate and meditate upon these duties; throw yourself wholly into them [as your ministry], so that your progress may be evident to everybody." 1 Timothy 4:15 AB}
It will take us, very probably much time and effort, to get where we desire to be, if wish to learn the deep things of Jehovah God, is we wish to find the very knowledge of God; but we must put forth the effort, we must take the time, for even with the Holy Spirit operating in us, or on us, it is our own obligation to dig out this knowledge for ourselves as we'd dig for treasures, like Silver or Gold! In that case, we will find the very knowledge of God!
So! One word sums it all up! Obediance! Being willing to follow every direction given in the Bible, without balking at anything! Without questioning the motives of Jehovah God; but rather doing what Noah did: "Noah proceeded to do all that Jehovah had commanded him to do, he did, JUST SO!" {Genesis 6:8,9,22}
Could we today, do any less than that, and still receive the Holy Spirit; the only avenue for learning the truth of the Bible? Absolutely not! We could not! W.J.P.
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by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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Black-Sheep!
The Apostle Paul was a chosen vessel of Jehovah God! One who wrote under the influence of the Holy Spirit, so everything he wrote was immediately and directly the word of Jehovah God, and you would dare to make the statement you make here about an inspired Prophet of Jehovah? I'll tell you this! You have a lot more nerve than I do! I myself would be terrified if even a thought like that came into my mind! Wannabe
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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Flipper!
Tell me why Jesus taught us all to pray, 'let your Kingdom Come, your will be done ON EARTH' ... Was he laying a little track on all of us? Telling us to pray for something he knew wasn't ever going to come? Or was it, at some point in time, really going to come? Problem, we have, is, WHEN? Wannabe
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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To All!
I'm just wondering, just which generation is it that will not pass away until all things are fulfilled. Seems to me, it would have to apply to some generation, either near, or far. If it comes like a thief in the night, like foretold it would, would it even be possible to know which generation we should be looking to? What about though, the generation of the last ruling world power, this eighth king John foretold that was to go off into destruction? {Revelation 17:11} This one who is found to be persecuting Jehovah's Holy Ones; prior to Jehovah's intervention? I'm making reference to the one Daniel foretold that would be in among the Ten Horns of Daniels vision? It was to spring from the SEVEN John said. Notice in Daniel 7:8, three of the Ten are uprooted to make room for this little Horn IN AMONG THEM. This little Horn is your Eighth King, because it springs from the seven of the Ten Left over after three are removed. This is the big instigator in the time of the end, who is a hater of Jehovah, his people, his entire heavenly arrangement. This one who establishes an image that all are forced on pain of death or starvation to worship. To make a very long story short, this eighth kings generation is the one that will not pass away. His generation that will have to be cut short, or no flesh would be saved. This Eighth King turns out to be the abomination of desolation standing or ruling in the Holy Place, because his Image or one world government demands the worship of everyone living on earth during his time period, and turns out to be standing or ruling in the place meant only for the Christ to stand or rule in. Constituting him as the Abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place. In that he is a violent hater of Jehovah, he also turns out to be the foretold Anti-Christ, as well. This King,because his image demands the worship of all living will destroy every Religion on this earth while making War against Jehovah's Holy Ones. This fall will create the symbolic earthquake foretold in Johns Revelation, and this fall of religion will rock this earth from end to end, similar to what a literal earthquake would, only much worse. This will trigger the time of the great tribulation that will have to be cut short by Christs intervention. Satan will be thrown down. Matthew 24:7 will be fulfilled, along with Ezekiels prophecy, when the sword of every mans sword will come to against his own Brother. All particular hell will break loose, that will be ended by massive divine intervention. There's much more, but for now enough! Wannabe
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Why do they appear so similar?
by wannabe inwhy do they appear so similar?.
many times i've been accused of using watchtower material in my presentations, when all i really own is a few bible translations and my concordance, which i rely on quite heavily, at times.
as for owning any watchtower material that i copy from, i have none of that, in my room at all that i use!
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G.S.H.
Am I being brain-washed when I read Matthew 24-Mark13-Luke21 too? Seems to me those Bible Writers knew what thay were talking about, even if the Governing Body didn't! Wannabe
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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Hi All!
Too bad they don't have brains enough to read the Book they claim to champion. They just might zero in on the last ruling World Power that the Apostle John said, would go off into destruction. Too bad they don't know, that this eighth King that springs friom the seven, actually springs from among the Ten Horns of Daniels vision. If they was to read Daniel 7:8 they would learn in a hurry, that three of the Ten Horns was pulled out by the roots to make room for one little horn that was in among them, that stood up as this eighth King. Take three from Ten! What have you? You have seven, correct, this Eighth King was to spring from the seven, not the seventh as in seventh World Power. That's where they go wrong in their calculations. They believe that when the League of Nations went into the abyss of inactivity in the 1940's that the United Nations that sprang up after the league, was this eight King! Wrong! The eighth King is among the Ten Horns! It is the last one on the scene just prior to Jehovah's intervention. It will be the generation of this Eighth King that was not to pass away. His generation that would have to be cut short. This Eighth King will establish a one World Government where everyone on pain of death will be forced to reveive a mark on the right hand and forehead. Anyone at this time not displaying these marks will be dead or starve to death from want of food because no one will be able to buy or sell if they do not display those marks. This eighth King will constitute the abomination of desolation, in that his one World Government is standing or ruling in the place meant for the chtrist alone to rule in, or stand in. Got to rush away! Wannabe