i love psychedelic music.
some of my favorites include the beatles' "blue jay way", .
the beastie boys' "namaste",.
"Crimson and Clover" by Tommy James and the Shondells is on my list. So is Rolling Stones' "She's a Rainbow".
Here's a few more of my favorites. If you haven't heard them, check them out:
"Cherry Blossom Clinic Revisted" by The Move
"Eight Miles High" by The Byrds
"Itchycoo Park" by Small Faces
"Pictures of Matchstick Men" by Status Quo
"Incense and Peppermints" by Strawberry Alarm Clock
ok best sex scenes in movies are up right now, how about songs that have been out for years then used in a movie and will always be tied to that movie???.
my fav is this one.... never heard the song the same way.
stuck in the middle with you/ stealers wheels.
Jennifer Connelly singing in Dark City:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFoRtq4LpHA
Awesome movie, btw.
one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.
very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.
as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.
jwfacts:
Thank you for those quotes.
possible-san:
You're welcome.
I think that this part is, probably, the most persuasive.
This is an evident lie.
I agree. Once we establish that the Society LIES, which we have done, then doctrine no longer matters. As a LIAR ORGANIZATION, they cannot be "God's Organization", regardless of what doctrines they do or do not teach.
That said, however, the fact that Rutherford went so far as to change the end date of the Gentile Times shows how important it is to Watchtower doctrine that the First World War lines up with the end of the Gentile Times. This should not be overlooked.
If it was not critically important to WT doctrine, Rutherford would not have changed the date of the Gentiles Times. If it was not critically important to WT doctrine, the WT$ today would not be lying to make it appear that the War began at the end of the Gentile Times:
Well, after the end of the Gentile Times in 1914 man’s rule brought on two world wars and an era of violence surpassing even that of Noah’s days before the flood. --WT 10/15/1968 p.627
The history books are there in the libraries to give us the details about World Wars I and II! Indeed, war of world proportions erupted at the end of the Gentile Times in 1914. --WT 5/15/1983 p.23
The reality is that World War I started before the end of the Gentiles Times, and therefore could not have have been a result of those times ending.
According to WT calculations, the "fiery-colored" horse whose task it was to "take peace away from the earth" actually did no such thing, since at the start of his "ride" (on or after October 1, 1914), the earth was already embroiled in a World War.
i would like to see variety of suggestions.
thank you!.
usually beer
i know this question could be either trivial, with a lot of theists shouting no, or overly complicated with endless debates about the definitions of theist and agnostic.
so, since i asked the question, why don't i also provide definitions.
please answer the question in relation to the definitions provided.
I'm somewhere between a theist and an agnostic. I believe it's likely that God exists (seems more likely to me than not existing)... but certainly I believe that IF he exists, he is unknowable and uninvolved in our existence.
So I guess I'm around a 2 on the scale.
Lol @ designs... ;)
i'm passing on a question and wanted input on it please:.
recently an xjws mother passed away, when it came to settling the estate.
a watchtower attorney produced a form that she had filled out and.
Could this be the Truth as to why WT seeks out "infractions" and looks to find problems to divide and cause trouble between family members?
Is this the real reason for some of the shunning edicts....so that when a person rejects his family WT can swoop in?
Is this the method to the madness?
Great food for thought, cameo-d.
one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.
very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.
as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.
PSac:
Very true. There are many flaws in the Society's '1914-Gentile Times' doctrine.
How about Matthew 28:18?
18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
The Society's claim that Jesus did not receive "All authority in heaven and on earth" until ~2000 years later is clearly contradicted by scripture. But we all know that JWs don't really believe the bible....
one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.
very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.
as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.
Essan, I believe the Society claims the Gentile Times ended at or very close to October 1, 1914.
one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.
very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.
as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.
blondie:
Well, then, peacedog, you should be able to find statements by Russell that do not line up with Rutherford's showing that was not the thinking before 1914 or even up to 1916 when Russell died.
Yes, for sure, you are right. But since the Society changed the end date back to Russell's original end date anyway, I'm not sure the point is germane.
Thanks for the links.
one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.
very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.
as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.
Blondie:
Russell died during the First World War, which he (and the Society) expected to escalate into Armageddon. So this wasn't a problem for Russell and didn't become a problem for the WTS until after the end of WWI. Hence Rutherford, in 1922, deceitfully changing the end of the Gentile Times to line up with the start of the war.
possible-san:
Of course it does not matter for die-hard JWs. Sadly, nothing does. Also, thanks for posting the QFR.
The QFR is nonsense, of course. The Society is faced with a huge problem, and the '72 QFR is an attempt to circumvent it. Rutherford attempted to circumvent the problem by changing the end date for the Gentile Times.
There are two important points in all of this, imo, and neither is changed by the '72 QFR.
First, the start of WWI has NOTHING to do with the ride of the "fiery-colored" horse. The Society establishes this fact in the '86 WT when they say that the horsemen could not have started their "ride" until AFTER October, 1914.
So here's the question for JWs: How did the fiery-colored horse 'take peace away from the earth' (which Revelation said he would) when the earth was already embroiled in a WORLD war?
Second (and perhaps most important), the WTS has outright lied to keep up the pretense that the outbreak of WWI was a result of the end of the Gentile Times in autumn, 1914:
Well, after the end of the Gentile Times in 1914 man’s rule brought on two world wars and an era of violence surpassing even that of Noah’s days before the flood. --WT 10/15/1968 p.627
I've said before and will no doubt say again: All doctrine aside, the Watchtower Society is a LIAR ORGANIZATION. This fact alone conclusively proves they do NOT have "the truth", they are NOT the "true religion", and they CANNOT possibly be "God's organization".
