A phenomenon I have observed is that many really need to vent in a safe and anonymous place like JWN, but show great restraint, repect and patience when face-to-face and trying to help a captive JW see the truth.
Fernando
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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates
by ShempLives inxjw protests & videos.
.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.
this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.
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JWs under scrutiny in Finland
by Mickey mouse inhttp://yle.fi/uutiset/ngo_calls_on_ministry_to_probe_closed_religious_groups_jehovahs_witnesses_under_scrutiny/7219755.
sorry i'm on a tablet so can't make the above clickable.
more at link.
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Fernando
The Watchtower denies "freedom of religion" and "freedom of expression" and "freedom of association" and "freedom of conscience" to current and former members.
At the same time it hypocritically goes to great lengths to secure these same rights for its religious hierarchy or clergy class.
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Abrahamism vs Gnosticism in a Nutshell :)
by ProdigalSon inhttp://www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/sex-for-salvation-ii%282395055%29.htm.
judaism claims that the way to god is through obeying endless rules allegedly imposed by god.
the great philosopher immanuel kant claimed that judaism wasn't a religion at all, but a mere body of laws.
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Fernando
Apostate Watchtower Gnosticism is supremacist and postulates that only they have knowledge about God and his son, and are saved by such knowledge.
Compare John 17:3 NWT, KIT, RNWT, and John 7:23.
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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates
by ShempLives inxjw protests & videos.
.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.
this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.
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Fernando
Welcome ShempLives.
Personally I regard myself as a dissenter who could no longer go along with Watchtower apostasy or "spiritual unfaithfulness" primarily in the form of rejecting the whole gospel (or full Good News) in favour of apostate legalism, moralism, ethnocentrism and supremacist Gnosticism.
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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement
by TTATTelder inthe gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
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Fernando
What about writing "After caring for my household, I will be donating as much as I can to those in need in our local community"?
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Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants
by Londo111 inthis is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.
feel free to poke holes.
i have many doubts about this myself.
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Fernando
I have no doubt that many of their postulations are reactive and in response to detractors catching them with their pants down and their minds corrupted.
In the end as Ray Franz observed they merely weave an increasingly tangled web aka a "morass of inconsistencies".
Being materialistic spiritually blind apostates, the GB (Sanhedrin) are not able to walk by spirit and must rely on walking by sight and flesh. Hence they have no access to higher wisdom and need to keep cheating and lying to avoid being unmasked to their followers.
Their end will come.
Corruption is not indefinitely sustainable.
(Maybe consultants are indeed used to help them strategize on packaging and timing of their latest "nu light")
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Why did God/Jehovah/Jesus create Viruses and bacteria that can kill humans and animals?
by Jon Preston ini know this topic has been spoken about but i havent seen an official thead about it.
so theists why did god create these and why does he co tinue to allow them?
are they from the talking snake, satan?.
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Fernando
Whilst I do believe there is abundant evidence for an intelligent, wise and loving creator, there is much not revealed or explained in scripture.
Until experience, science and/or God supply the answer we can often only speculate.
I also believe that despite many great scientific breakthroughs and discoveries we are still only beginning to scratch the surface and will in future be stunned by our ignorance.
This makes me think of renowned physicist Lord Kelvin who in 1895, in spite of observing birds fly, declared that "heavier than air flying machines are impossible". The Wright brothers proved him wrong only 8 years later.
More recently the medical establishment at first laughably rejected Prof Barry Marshall's discovery of the Helicobacter Pylori bacterium and its role in stomach ulcers. It took 23 years before he was awarded a Nobel prize for this discovery.
Our best scientific minds also believed the jet engine to be impossible right up to its development.
Despite great advances in Western medicine 9 out of 10 Australians have a 100% chance of getting AND dying from Chronic Disease.
In short we humans are not as clever as we sometimes imagine.
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Doesn't the ARMAGEDDON teaching foster a MORBID view of the future?
by Black Man ineven when i was dyed-in-the-wool j-dub, i felt the armageddon teaching was one of the most morbid concepts to be hammered into the psyches of jws.
think about it, only jws would survive this catastrophe, which translates to roughly .001 percent of the population would survive while everyone else would die a horrible death.
that includes people who do good things and are good people, but are just not jws.
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Fernando
Indeed.
The very opposite of the liberating "Good News".
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Amazing Experience while in the Door to Door field service.. The work really is speeding up.
by objectivetruth ina pioneer sister who just returned from pioneer school, and her elder husband, who was previously in bethel are in service.. when they come to an enthusiastic house holder.
after discussing the glorious messianic kingdom that has been ruling since 1914,err 1919 the house holder says "ok this really is good news, what must i do to be saved??".
brother elder and sister pioneer elder both look at each other, and they know right away the best answer... sister pioneer reaches into her bag pulling out her km approved preaching tablet device (she waves it around a. bit, with the purpose of impressing the householder how advanced the wt is), she then says i want to show you our website, jw .
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Fernando
The Watchtower is indeed a master of turning the simple "plan of salvation" into the complicated "scam of salvation".
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Amazing Experience while in the Door to Door field service.. The work really is speeding up.
by objectivetruth ina pioneer sister who just returned from pioneer school, and her elder husband, who was previously in bethel are in service.. when they come to an enthusiastic house holder.
after discussing the glorious messianic kingdom that has been ruling since 1914,err 1919 the house holder says "ok this really is good news, what must i do to be saved??".
brother elder and sister pioneer elder both look at each other, and they know right away the best answer... sister pioneer reaches into her bag pulling out her km approved preaching tablet device (she waves it around a. bit, with the purpose of impressing the householder how advanced the wt is), she then says i want to show you our website, jw .
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Fernando
Oh don't you just love your favourite schizophrenic and psychotic religion...
How lucky I was to have been born into the Watchtower.
And how unlucky all the other bums born into all the other religions. Poor sods.