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  Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i struggled with this question before i got baptised.

  what helped you to overcome any doubts?.

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  Fernando

  Thanks, yes I missed it, SFPW.

  However only three of the four questions were answered.

  Would you have a go at question number 3 too, and possibly also offer proof?
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  What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.

  i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.

  i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.

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  Fernando

  My first experience with apostasy was more than 40 years ago when I was born into an apostate, supremacist, doomsday religious cult - one of the many daughters of the one known in scripture as "the mother of the harlots" (apostates) namely Babylon the Great.

  My last experience with apostasy (harlotry) was when I walked out mid-2009.
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  Heavenly Gates Closed in 1935… Re-opened in 2007

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since 1935, the watchtower had been categorically teaching (for over 6 decades) that the heavenly calling of the 144,000 anointed christians had ceased in 1935. this teaching was especially significant to older jws (especially those who spent much of their lives serving the watchtower as pioneers, elders, missionaries, bethelites, etc.

  ) because many of these would eventually turn their attention to the aging governing body members and feel a sense of relief knowing that the end was drawing ever so near.

  in other words, as more governing body members (who were born before 1935) passed away, the closer they would get to their long-awaited reward of surviving armageddon and living on paradise earth where they would finally hug grass-eating lions near a waterfall while marveling at snow-peaked mountains in the distance.

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  Fernando

  DATA-DOG: "Elder Moe Lester".

  Probably heaps more of those around than any of us imagine!
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  Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i struggled with this question before i got baptised.

  what helped you to overcome any doubts?.

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  Fernando

  SFPW, if you've had time to contemplate my questions on page 1, I'd love to know where you are at on your journey...
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  A big shout out to Simon-JWN my new days text !!!!!

  by 70wksfyrs in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  dear simon,.

  i want to give you a great big public thank you!!!!.

  jwn has been instrumental in my deprogramming.

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  Fernando

  Yup, there is arsenic in the honey that the WBTS has on offer.

  Indeed, a big thank you to Simon and family, for his labour of love.
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  WBATS BANS ANYTHING BESIDES THE WT! SMH

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it irks me when i read in the watchtower do not use secular sources or the internet to do research... but in that very same wt it will quote a secular source or literature to prove a point!

  how hypocritical!!!

  it's all apart of their limited information mind control!

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  Fernando

  Welcome ADJUSTMENTS!
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  Heavenly Gates Closed in 1935… Re-opened in 2007

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since 1935, the watchtower had been categorically teaching (for over 6 decades) that the heavenly calling of the 144,000 anointed christians had ceased in 1935. this teaching was especially significant to older jws (especially those who spent much of their lives serving the watchtower as pioneers, elders, missionaries, bethelites, etc.

  ) because many of these would eventually turn their attention to the aging governing body members and feel a sense of relief knowing that the end was drawing ever so near.

  in other words, as more governing body members (who were born before 1935) passed away, the closer they would get to their long-awaited reward of surviving armageddon and living on paradise earth where they would finally hug grass-eating lions near a waterfall while marveling at snow-peaked mountains in the distance.

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  Fernando

  Great post Alfred!

  Thanks for bumping Calebs Airplane!

  One of the elders in our congregation (at the time) did the usual Pharisee pilgrimage to Mecca, I mean Brooklyn, in the late 1980s where he paid homage to the VISIBLE Golden Calf, I mean GB, and was reliably informed that those of "the anointed" who were younger than 60 were frauds and mentally unstable.

  I believe that would include all the present GB members.

  That does indeed clarify the situation somewhat.
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  Lurkers and Apologists, can you please explain.....

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ..from the scriptures why.... 1) material wealth is a sign of jehovah's blessing in our modern day.. 2) why jehovah blesses the growth of chicken populations, but allows active jehovah's witnesses to die in field service, or on the way to conventions, and on the way to celebrate the memorial?

  3) why jesus is not your mediator?

  bibles and a concordance only.

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  Fernando

  Great questions (on page 1), thanks for sharing tornapart.
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  Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i struggled with this question before i got baptised.

  what helped you to overcome any doubts?.

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  Fernando

  SFPW how do you see the GB as faithful when they instruct elders to disfellowship any "publisher of the Good News" that dares to declare the "Good News" according to Paul?

  Is it true that more than half the NWT's references to "Good News" are by Paul?

  Why is the "Good News" according to Paul not in your heart and not on your lips?

  Under these circumstances how can you claim to "Stand for Pure Worship"?
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  Thinking of joining the Masons

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all, can anyone give me some inputt on the masons.

  im always leary about cults and joining groups.

  but the masons seem ok too me.. i want to join because of new freinds and just network with people.

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  Fernando

  I would hesitate to join a group that is not totally transparent, open and honest - and which has strong detractors - without detailed prior research including careful examination of ex-members experiences and insights.

  (BTW Microsoft Word is great for spell checking.
  Simply click inside your post before you "submit",
  then select (Ctrl + A), copy (Ctrl + C) and then
  paste (Ctrl + V) into a blank MS Word document).