I try to look at the positives I can find in any circumstance. I was 16, it controlled me enough to get me off of drugs and other unpleasant things. I needed to be controlled at the time. Not really sure I would be alive without it. Having said that, I find I'm a better person, happier and more fulfilled since I left.
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My first experience at a Christian church--for what it's worth
by bluecanary ini am dating an advent christian (very similar to baptist).
i went to church with him for the first time yesterday.
i was pleased that he wanted me there because it's nice to be included in things that are meaningful to him.
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Are JW's so interested in outward appearances that they are missing an ingredient of intimacy that is needed to forge real relationships amongst the unwashed masses that is mankind?
Yes. They do not encourage relationships outside of the congregation. Family relationships (of those not living in the household) and relationships with neighbors, co- workers and class mates are only encouraged on the basis of "necessary business" or the jw's ability to "witness" to such family members. It is highly discouraged bying using the scripture in 1Cor. 15:33. "Bad association spoils useful habits" If you are not "a lover of Jehovah" AKA a Jehovah's witness, you are bad association and could lead the Jehovah's Witness out of Jehovah's organization. (I'll leave references to Blondie or Leolia, I don't have the info here at work)
BlueC, Thanks for your post, I was suprised the first time I attended church, that it was nearly as scary as jw's make it sound. I was impressed that the one I attended was more focused on worship & praise, then 2 hr. lecturing about how great they are.
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Which poster would you like to have a beer (or Pepsi for the sober peeps) with? Why?
by serenitynow! ini've lurking for months, and have enjoyed the various personalities on the board.
i'm pretty sure that i've seen this topic done on an old thread, but i don't want to get my buddy asilentone all riled up by performing a resurrection.
minimus- cause he is funny.
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Does anyone live in Colorado?
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O Little Bird!
by compound complex inthe darkling thrush.
thomas hardy .
i leant upon a coppice gate.
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littlebird
Oh, I thought you were talking to me. Beautiful, though!
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Which poster would you like to have a beer (or Pepsi for the sober peeps) with? Why?
by serenitynow! ini've lurking for months, and have enjoyed the various personalities on the board.
i'm pretty sure that i've seen this topic done on an old thread, but i don't want to get my buddy asilentone all riled up by performing a resurrection.
minimus- cause he is funny.
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Paul from Cleveland, Mouthy & Chalam
Minimus & Ak Jeff Here's to you!
And pretty much anybody here, really.
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Would You Picket A Kingdom Hall?
by minimus ini know some zealots that have carried signs and peacefully picketed kingdom halls, especially on the memorial.. what do you think about that?.
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No, they have a right to believe what they want and picketing would only re-enforce their belief that they are "being persecuted for Jehovah's name". People dressed up like clowns and picketed the assembly when I got baptised. All it did was make me think they were weirdos, and that I was being persecuted from satan for getting baptised. Big back fire.
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Why is it so hard for Ex-JWs to make that "final step" and give up Christianity?
by sabastious ini'm not sure if it's just denial on a lot of people's part, but the reason the jws doctrine is so wacky and controlling is because they are among the few religions that really try to follow the bible!.
the bible is the culprit here in actuality, but even after someone has "wizened up" to the misguided teachings of jehovah's witnesses they still hold the bible as inspired word of god.. why don't you believe that the governing body was chosen as the faithful and discreet slave in 1918?
because the only real evidence to that fact is that they say so.
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I looked at the evidence for and against Christ, the bible, etc and compared that with my own personal experiences and came up with different conclusions than the atheists. I'm not a walking, talking encyclopedia, like some here, but my search found a historical Christ, evidence of the flood and confidence in the bible. Part of the reason I'm not much of a reference quoter is because I don't really feel the need to convince anyone of anything. I'm happy, it's my life and I'm finally feel free to believe as I wish.
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Celebrity JWs and exJWs
by Lady Lee inthere is quite a list many i have never heard of.
i've done this before but this adds a lot of names - a lot.
gregg alexander - the new radicals' lead singer; raised by mother papa dee allen of the 70s-80s rock group war.
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- Gary Gygax - Co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons.
That one really suprised me. They were playing the game in school, when my kids were little and all the witness parents in the area were in an uproar.
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Does the new Catholic scandal help or hurt in exposing the WT abuse scandals?
by undercover inwith all the attention being paid to new allegations of abuse cover-up in the catholic church i wonder:.
1. does this take the heat off the wts and are they hoping to slide through less scrutinized while the pope gets skewered by the media?
will the wts be stupid enough to try to capitalize on the catholics problems by printing articles critical of them?.
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I feel much better now that you've added to my insignificant thread...
Your thread is not insignificant. I'm pretty vocal about this topic on the colorado springs exjw meetup. I get emails all the time from witnesses coming out of the organization asking about the scandals. They never heard about it. You never know who could be lurking at your thread, Under Cover, and something they read here may jolt their thinking.
The wt, wants all their people to believe that theirs is a pure organization, and if there is something wrong, they will protect us. There's probably more dirt hid under the rug than we may ever know. I appreciate your thread.
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Does the new Catholic scandal help or hurt in exposing the WT abuse scandals?
by undercover inwith all the attention being paid to new allegations of abuse cover-up in the catholic church i wonder:.
1. does this take the heat off the wts and are they hoping to slide through less scrutinized while the pope gets skewered by the media?
will the wts be stupid enough to try to capitalize on the catholics problems by printing articles critical of them?.
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littlebird
I think #1 will be the case. There are many Jw's who still don't know about the settlements. Why? Because The Watch Tower places all the attention on other groups, condemning them, pointing fingers, all the while they have their own problems that they just don't bring up, unless, of course, it ends up on TV.