the only doctrine that never ever will change:
obey Gods channel the FDS !
everything else is only temporary
or atleast tweaking it again... apparently there has been rumors of this coming out of bethel.
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the only doctrine that never ever will change:
obey Gods channel the FDS !
everything else is only temporary
the finish minister of justice has publicly attacked the practice of judicial committees in her country which are in violation with the basic rights and freedoms enjoyed from citizens in her country .read the full article here :.
finland attacks judicial committees.
please like and share article so more get to see it!.
The JW will argue, that somebody who joins them is educated about the practice of disfellowshipping and agreed to it
However, how does this apply to children ? Or to certain sins, which are not mentioned neither in the bible , nor in the babtism questions?
or atleast tweaking it again... apparently there has been rumors of this coming out of bethel.
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not now, and not so soon.
everybody now is talking about WW1 on all its consequences on the years after, and how it changed the world. Witnesses just love it, since it confirms their predicted date of jesus reign, even though its soo opposite of what you would expect of jesus rulership...
once 1914 will fade from collective memory, maybe approaching 100 years of WW2, then we will see.....
http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/10435-the-end-of-the-world.html.
the end of the world.
last autumn, jussi k. began to plan his disassociation from jehovah's witnesses.
very well written, accurate information, well researched.
and it all boils down to one issue: the disfellowshipping.
If JW ever abandon it, nobody would care anymore about some of their weird beliefs, as most religions have weird beliefs.
However, as the article pointed out, they will not give up shunning, it is their very tool of control. Without it, they would just diminish.
ok, so as most know, this is the weekend of the "special talk" .... if anyone is going to the k hall, please shaer your thoughts on what makes is "so special".... i bet it will be more recycled same same.... "god loves you, he hates violence, he hates bad things happening to good people, he wants you all to be jw memebers...or he will kill you all at the big loving armageddon!!!!!!!
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"Why a loving God permits wickedness"
it was the same old for long time witnesses, a typical recruiting talk for newbies...
nothing special, really....
i have a number of problems with the noah's ark story that i could never find the answer to in the bible and so i thought i could ask here:.
1.how did noah get animals that are indigenous to areas he could not get to (e,g penguins, koalas, kangaroos, moose etc) .
2.the flood supposedly happened around 4000 years ago but there is evidence of civilisation dating back a lot further.
Can you prove that Noah's ark actually happened
Ye of little faith. Have you not seen the movie trailer? "Maximus and the Ark"? It's all explained right there in High Def movie making. Geez...
so funny....
my wife told me today that during a conversation with a relative on the phone recently, the relative said that someone in their congregation had been invited to take part in a branch extension in a foreign country.
this young woman who had been asked to take part is a solid witness, though not a pioneer, but guess what?
she is an architect!
i remmeber the talk of a (former) missionary about some countries in south america, and how he bashed higher education. The talk continued showing the physicians working at bethel there.
Sometime sI wonder, whether he was really that blind to not recognize the double standard, or he was doing it on purpose...
this is a follow up to my previous thread.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/268693/1/they-are-definitely-attacking-higher-education.
so we had our co visit and we were quizzed about the "problem" of higher education as well.
no mention during our last visit either,
we have some going to University in our hall, nobody really cares much about it though, as long as they report their time regularly...
if you and a fellow jehovah's witness went to a house where the homeowner brought up a watchtower doctrine which you secretly disagree with, would you defend it or tell them what it is you really believe?.
either way you are at a loss.. defending something you disagree with is living a lie and telling a lie.
not defending it and telling the home owner what you really believe makes you an apostate by watchtower society standards.
heavensgate1, welcome from me too..
I used to think this way also, but please consider:
US citzens, British people and even Catholic church (at least most of them all) recognize the wrong course their forefathers/predecessors took, they usually admit their error, and do not claim, they were the only poeple on earth guided by Gods spirit, when this crimes happened (this not sure regarding Catholics though...).
The point is, that they claim of the WTS for unquestioning obedience has to be put under the closest scrutiny. Since the GB already existed in Rutherfords time (according to their own doctrine), their reputation is in strong connection with what he did or not did.
recently, i met an old friend for a coffee, he is a jw in good standing.. he does not know of my "awakening", but he knows, that i m pretty open with things.. so he came up with some thoughts, that, if somebody listened, would be enough for a jc on basis of apostasy.. since his english is not so good, i suppose he did not read this on the internet.. i just paraphrase some of his thoughts:.
the creation account in genesis is not accurate and in line with science.
a global flood was not possible.
"I think it's interesting that he verbalized all those thoughts and has NOT awakened!"
yes, but I remember years ago talking with him quite open, particularly about the demand of unquestionable obedience, which disturbed us both. And at this time, even I was not awaken.
I also had doubts and questions before, but only through the internet, I realized, my doubts and questions are perfectly justified, since soo many others have them too.
I know his family well, very nice people, but the world would collaps, if he would leave, and I´m not sure, whether this would be something he or his family could really bear.