yknot, thats probably right, however overzealous dubs do exactly this, they take every single word like an expression from God himself...
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Did anyone notice this? 2-15-2010 WT Welcome to the best way of life
by baltar447 ini was taken aback that paragraph 11 basically says that a relationship with god does not even begin until after dedication and baptism.
did anyone notice this?
i've been trying to find any similar statements in the wtl but so far haven't come up with anything.
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Did anyone notice this? 2-15-2010 WT Welcome to the best way of life
by baltar447 ini was taken aback that paragraph 11 basically says that a relationship with god does not even begin until after dedication and baptism.
did anyone notice this?
i've been trying to find any similar statements in the wtl but so far haven't come up with anything.
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During WT study I pointed this out to my wife, even had a question mark on that paragraph...
I wondered, how can you dedicate yourself to somebody you do not have any relation, how can you experience the grace of God, which should move you to dedication, when you not already before had close friendship to the almighty.
Its also fascinating, how contradictory the whole thing is. JW invite people during their bible study to pray and rely on God whle having problems, but then say, well sorry, but you had no personal relation to him, its only after getting dunked....
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What is the J.W. position on video games?
by outlander inwant to study with me last winter.
he came into my house and while walking around looking at things he noticed my shelved collection of video games, some going back 15 years, but most old playstation rpg and racing games, a few ps2 rpg'd mixed in.
the usual stuff, final fantasy and such.
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There is one kind of entertainment I really do like: a good video game.
Even long before I knew the truth about the truth, I liked to play video games, despite the negative undertone that is present in talks or articles of the society about this genre.
Of course, they never outright say, playing video games is wrong, but they almost always put them in bad light.
Mostly for violence or spiritistic content, and even if this does not apply, it is a kind of entertainment that can cause addictions and steal lots of time.
Its their kind of controlling, only highlight the negative aspects of some thing.
Admittedly, there are problems with people getting addicted, there are games, which are really gross and overly brutal, especially for children they can steal too much time. But the same is true with everything else.
I usually applied my own conscience, but did not make a big deal to others about it.
And there is a big difference between using violence in a video game and using violence in real life. So all this talk about violence in entertainment is the biggest hypocrisy, when they encouraged not too long ago even officially the use of force (violence) in rearing your children.
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Do not circulate recordings or transcripts of talks at the meetings last night.
by life is to short inok i listening in for the meetings and will probably go to the special talk sunday, they are having it this week because of the special assembly day last weekend.. i am doing this for a very good reason but it is driving me crazy listening to this stuff.
i need to vent of else i feel i will go crazy.
it is so stupid.. ok so last night was the question box and it was about recording the public talks.
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its funny same kind of comments here too. A brother, normally a really smart guy, said, that Jehovahs org is moving, what was 10 years ago changed. We should not listen, because information might be wrong now.
hm, truth changes ? didnt know that....
Also funny, some years ago, I received a recorder talk from a GB member directly from our CO.
Wonder what he really thought of this article...
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"Spiritual conversation"? What is that?
by teel inyou surely remember that there were numerous exhortations to talk about spiritual things, especially in kh.
i never quite understood what that's supposed to mean.
(which is probably why i talked so little in the kh i guess).
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it made me think, because usually in the KH you talk about norma stuff, work, holiday etc, and I always felt a bit guilty, since it was not spirtual... however, what great can you talk especially after midweek meeting, where you learn for the 182nd time, how to offer the magazines or to invite people to the org etc....
The only spirtual discussion I really had was when I asked or discussed deeper questions, (with some in our hall you can do that) but in the end, that easily led to questioning things, the society teaches...so sad, we have some great minds, the WTs restricts them and dumbs down any real spirituality...
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no, no holy spirit directly involved, the only argument would be the qualifications in the bible...
have to say, in our congo, the BOE is pretty much ok, most really care for the brothers, of course following BORG-rules without questioning, but thats really not their fault, but I have been in ohter congos too, were the BOE were horrible, powerdriven, or completely desinterested in any real shperding...
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Does the new Catholic scandal help or hurt in exposing the WT abuse scandals?
by undercover inwith all the attention being paid to new allegations of abuse cover-up in the catholic church i wonder:.
1. does this take the heat off the wts and are they hoping to slide through less scrutinized while the pope gets skewered by the media?
will the wts be stupid enough to try to capitalize on the catholics problems by printing articles critical of them?.
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some witnesses here go crazy about it, how bad the RC is, and so on...
Whenever possible, I try to tell them not to point the finger, things like that happen with JW too....I usually get a big surprised look...
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Signing Publisher Record Cards
by IMHO ini know this doesn't apply to all countries.. however, is it a 'requirement'?.
is it enforced?.
is it optional?.
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good question IMHO,
I think, they cannot trouble a piblisher much, but if there is any privilege it might be taken away, because of not "humbly submitting to theocratic order" or something like that.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-07-10 WT Study (DEDICATE JAH)
by blondie inhe will even restore his loyal ones to their youth so that they can benefit from his care.
more happiness than dedication ourselves to anything or one else--even a spirit-directed organization?.
about making the choice to belong to jehovah.. comments.
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anybody noticed the pictures ?
the guy supposed to be a bible study, was shown with a full beard, and then, to illustrate his changes from wordly to godly, he became clean shaven....
even in times when I was full 'in', I never undertsood the stance on beards...so now it bugs me even more...
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prayer before eating
by stillin ini mentioned to an elder/friend the other day that it occurred to me that there really doesan't seem to be any scriptural precedent or mandate for the tradition of praying before we eat.
i said that jesus blessed the loaves and fishes when he performed that miracle, and he blessed the wine and bread at the last supper, but i couldn't think of any other example of it.
i also suggested that the tradition of praying before eating was probably rooted in giving thanks to the various gods of nature and the perception og god as being involved in the outcome of the harvest, and that, by that way of looking at it, we probably shouldn't pray before eating....silence..
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hm, at home in the family, I think it has its value, reminds you to be thankful in general, which is not a bad thing...
however, i hate it in public, always did the same as cantleave did (and hoped nobody else around notices)