What is the J.W. position on video games?

by outlander 30 Replies latest jw experiences

  • outlander

    Had a J.W. want to study with me last winter. He came into my house and while walking around looking at things he noticed my shelved collection of video games, some going back 15 years, but most old Playstation RPG and racing games, a few PS2 RPG'd mixed in. The usual stuff, Final Fantasy and such. Nothing really violent or twisted. He stands ther looking for a moment and even though he evidentally knows nothing about what he's looking at he makes the statement that I should sell and get rid of these. Taken by surprise I ask him why, and he makes some lame statement about them being worldly entertainment. Needless to say he is no longer welcome. I hate narrowmindedness and others thinking they know whats best for everyone else. Now, about a week ago a J.W. and his wife come by. The man wants to have a study with me and is polite about things. His wife on the other hand sees me playing a video game and says, ( Is that you making that character with the armor and sword open that chest and move around?) Yes, I replied, realizing that this fully grown woman in her 30's had never played a video game and new abso;utely nothing about them whatsoever. Nonetheless, after a bit she says to me: YOU LOVE VIOLENCE DON'T YOU. Actually, no, I replied, I hate violence in real life but this is just an RPG, you know sort of like reading a book, but you can control the characters. While, to make a long story short, nothing i said could convince her otherwise. My little cartoon character with his tiny sword fighting in turn based battles had this ignorant woman totally bent out of shape just decrying my love of violence. I have not invited her or her husband back since even though he as called several times trying to set up a book study. It seems to me that any organization which tells it's members what to watch on TV or play as entertainment is totally out to control others will. I just can't see Jesus condoning these actions. Is this a common occurance with all J.W.'s? does anyone have a story of their own to tell along these lines? I would love to hear them.

    Outlander, and proud of it!!

  • oompa

    hahahah.....funny question......cause just about ANYTHING that takes you away from doing some type of JW work....ministry....whatever....is pretty much worldly and evil....cause you are wasting time not serving their lord.........oompa

  • 5thGeneration

    Young People Ask

    Should I Play Electronic Games?

    ELECTRONIC games are more than just high-tech entertainment. True, they challenge your skill and help keep boredom at bay. But they do more. Electronic games can sharpen your reflexes, and studies indicate that playing these games improves visual attention. Some of them may even enhance your math and reading skills. Besides, the latest electronic game is likely to be the topic of schoolyard conversation. If you’ve played the game, you have something to talk about with your peers.

    Of course, it’s up to your parents whether you’re allowed to play electronic games. (Colossians 3:20) If they permit you to do so, you should be able to find a game that is both exciting and morally acceptable. Why, though, do you need to be especially cautious?

    How often do you play electronic games?

    • Rarely
    • Once a week
    • Every day

    How much time do you spend when you play a game?

    • A few minutes
    • An hour or less
    • More than two hours

    What type of games do you like most?

    • Car racing
    • Sports
    • First-person shooter
    • Other

    Write the name of an electronic game that you know would not be good for you to play.

    Their Dark Side!

    Sixteen-year-old Brian says, “Computer games are exciting and cool.” But as you likely already know, not all games are harmless. Brian admits, “You get to do things in the game that you would never actually do in real life—not without getting into serious trouble, that is.” What type of behavior do these games encourage?

    Many games blatantly promote immorality, profanity, and violence—all condemned by the Bible. (Psalm 11:5; Galatians 5:19-21; Colossians 3:8) Some games glorify occult practices. Adrian, 18, describes one popular game as featuring “gang wars, drug use, explicit sexual content, foul language, intense violence, blood, and gore.” And each new release seems to make previous games look tame in comparison. James, 19, says that the most popular of these games can be played live on the Internet. This ability takes gaming to a whole new level. “From your home computer,” says James, “you can challenge people who live on the other side of the world.”

    Role-playing games have become hugely popular. In these, participants create online characters—whether human, animal, or a blend of both—that inhabit a computer-generated world populated by thousands of other players. This online world contains shops, cars, homes, dance clubs, brothels—in essence, it is a replica of the real world. The players in these games are able to instant message one another as their computer-generated characters, called avatars, interact.

    What goes on in those virtual worlds? “Ordinary people indulge in activities they never would, or could, do in real life,” says one journalist. He adds: “Sex is commonplace, as is prostitution.” Just by pressing a few buttons, the players can make their avatars engage in sex acts while the real-world participants talk about sex via instant messaging. In addition, those worlds are “full of virtual crimes, Mafia men, pimps, extortionists, counterfeiters and assassins,” says the journal New Scientist . Another magazine reports that “critics have raised concerns about activities that would be illegal in the real world, such as the brothel that features rape fantasies, or people who indulge in sex acts using avatars that resemble children.”

    Why Your Choice Matters

    Those who play those violent or sexually graphic games may say: “No harm done. It’s not real. It’s just a game.” But don’t be fooled by such false reasoning!

    The Bible says: “Even by his practices a boy makes himself recognized as to whether his activity is pure and upright.” (Proverbs 20:11) If you make it a practice to play violent, immoral electronic games, could you be described as being pure and upright in mind? Studies repeatedly show that watching violent entertainment increases aggression in those who view it. New Scientist recently stated: “The interactive nature of video games means they have a stronger effect than TV.”

    Choosing to play violent or immoral games is like choosing to play with radioactive waste—the damaging effects may not be immediately obvious, but they are inevitable. In what way? Exposure to high doses of radiation can destroy the lining of the stomach and allow bacteria from the intestines to invade the bloodstream, resulting in sickness. Similarly, exposure to graphic sex and hideous violence can damage your “moral sense” and allow fleshly desires to dominate your thinking and actions.—Ephesians 4:19; Galatians 6:7, 8.

    What Game Should I Choose?

    If your parents allow you to play any electronic games, how can you know which to choose and how much time to devote to them? Ask yourself the following questions:

    Will my choice offend Jehovah? The type of game you choose can affect the way God feels about you. “Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one, and anyone loving violence His soul certainly hates,” states Psalm 11:5. Regarding those who engage in occult practices, God’s Word says: “Everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) If we want to be friends of God, we need to follow the advice at Psalm 97:10: “You lovers of Jehovah, hate what is bad.”

    Choosing to play violent or immoral games is like choosing to play with radioactive waste—the damaging effects may not be immediately obvious, but they are inevitable

    How will the game affect my thinking? Ask yourself, ‘Will playing this game make it easier or harder for me to “flee from fornication”?’ (1 Corinthians 6:18) Games that expose you to sexually arousing images or conversations will not help you to keep your mind on things that are righteous, chaste, and virtuous. (Philippians 4:8) Amy, 22, says: “Many games desensitize you to things like violence, foul language, and immorality and can cause you to let down your guard in other aspects of life. You have to be very careful what you choose to play.”

    How much time will I spend playing the game? Deborah, 18, says: “I don’t think all computer games are bad. But they can be very time-consuming, almost addictive.” Even the most innocent electronic games can consume a lot of time. So keep a log of how much time you spend gaming and then compare that with the amount of time you spend in other more essential activities. Doing so will help you to keep your priorities in order.—Ephesians 5:15, 16.

    The Bible doesn’t require that you spend your whole life studying or working. It reminds all of us that there is “a time to laugh . . . and a time to skip about.” (Ecclesiastes 3:4) It is worth noting that the expression “to skip about” implies not only play but also physical activity. So why not use some of your free time to play games that involve physical activity instead of limiting yourself to sitting in front of a computer screen?

    Choose Wisely

    Without a doubt, playing electronic games can be fun, especially if you get good at it. And herein lies the very reason for you to choose your games wisely. Ask yourself, ‘What subjects do I do best in at school?’ Aren’t they usually the ones that you enjoy? In fact, it often follows that the more you enjoy a subject, the greater the impression it makes on you. Now ask yourself: ‘What electronic game do I enjoy the most? What moral lessons is this game teaching me?’

    As a guide, why not write a brief review of each of the games you want to play, outlining the goal of the game and the methods used to achieve that goal? Compare your review with the Bible principles mentioned in this article, and then determine if the game is suitable.

    Rather than playing a game just because your peers play it, have the strength to make your own informed choice. Most important of all, apply the Bible’s advice: “Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.”—Ephesians 5:10.


    • What would you say if a friend invited you to play a violent or immoral electronic game?
    • How can you make sure that playing electronic games doesn’t interfere with more important activities?

    More articles from the “Young People Ask” series can be found at www.watchtower.org/ype


    As you may have concluded after reading the preceding article, electronic games have come a long way since you were a teen. As a parent, how can you help your child identify the potential dangers and avoid them?

    Little good will be accomplished by condemning the entire industry or by dogmatically asserting that electronic games are a complete waste of time. Remember, not all games are bad. However, they can be addictive and time-consuming. So take time to analyze the amount of time your child spends playing these games. Also, consider the type of games to which your child seems attracted. You could even ask your child such questions as these:

    • Which game is the most popular among your classmates?
    • What happens in the game?
    • Why do you think the game is so popular?

    You might find that your child knows more about electronic games than you thought! Perhaps he or she has even played games that you feel are objectionable. If that is the case, do not overreact. This is an opportunity for you to help your child develop perceptive powers.—Hebrews 5:14.

    Ask questions that will help your child determine why the attraction to objectionable games exists. For example, you could ask a question like this:

    • Do you feel left out because you aren’t allowed to play that particular game?

    As brought out on the first page of the preceding article, youths may play a certain game so that they will have something to talk about with their peers. If this is so with your child, you will likely not address the situation the way you would if you found that your child was attracted to games containing gory violence or sexual overtones.—Colossians 4:6.

    But what if your child is attracted to the negative elements of a game? Some youths may quickly insist that they aren’t affected by computer-generated gore. ‘Just because I do it onscreen doesn’t mean I’ll do it in real life,’ they reason. If that’s how your child feels, draw his or her attention to Psalm 11:5. As the wording of the scripture makes clear, it is not just being violent that merits God’s disapproval but loving violence does too. The same principle applies to sexual immorality or any other vice that God’s Word condemns.—Psalm 97:10.

    Some experts recommend the following:

    • Do not allow electronic games to be played in a secluded area, such as the bedroom.
    • Set ground rules (for example, no games before finishing homework or dinner or some other essential activity).
    • Emphasize the value of alternative activities that require physical exertion.
    • Watch your children play their electronic games—or, better yet, play with them at times.

    Of course, to guide your children in the matter of entertainment, you need to have freeness of speech. So ask yourself, ‘What kind of TV shows and movies do I watch?’ Make no mistake—if you have a double standard, your children will know it!

  • outlander

    Ha! The above reprint is so full of twisted logic and doublespeak that it leaves me braindead. So, it's time to call it a day. Almost 1.00 A.M. now and sleeping pill kicking in. Will check this thread again in morning.


  • dgp

    What about chess?

  • inbetween

    There is one kind of entertainment I really do like: a good video game.

    Even long before I knew the truth about the truth, I liked to play video games, despite the negative undertone that is present in talks or articles of the society about this genre.

    Of course, they never outright say, playing video games is wrong, but they almost always put them in bad light.

    Mostly for violence or spiritistic content, and even if this does not apply, it is a kind of entertainment that can cause addictions and steal lots of time.

    Its their kind of controlling, only highlight the negative aspects of some thing.

    Admittedly, there are problems with people getting addicted, there are games, which are really gross and overly brutal, especially for children they can steal too much time. But the same is true with everything else.

    I usually applied my own conscience, but did not make a big deal to others about it.

    And there is a big difference between using violence in a video game and using violence in real life. So all this talk about violence in entertainment is the biggest hypocrisy, when they encouraged not too long ago even officially the use of force (violence) in rearing your children.

  • peaches

    i'm sure its a sin and they are all demonized....

  • jamiebowers
    What about chess?

    That was against the rules when I was in, and so was Risk. I've been out for 21 years and don't know what the rules are now.

  • yourmomma

    man, looking at this stuff now makes me see how fucking sick it is. this is the most fucked up thing i have read in a long time, if you really think about it:

    The type of game you choose can affect the way God feels about you. “Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one, and anyone loving violence His soul certainly hates,” states Psalm 11:5. Regarding those who engage in occult practices, God’s Word says: “Everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) If we want to be friends of God, we need to follow the advice at Psalm 97:10: “You lovers of Jehovah, hate what is bad.”

    I mean, seriously, they are saying to these children that Jehovah will hate them if they play a video game that has violence.

    what a cult!

  • dgp

    Chess isn't even necessarily a video game!

    Probably they won't even let you play tic-tac-toe.

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