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  Definitely getting DF'ed now

  by notverylikely in

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  came out as an apostate to the wife, came out about the depression, anger at being second fiddle in her life to 9 old guys in brooklyn, came out about having turned atheist, came out about the indiscrections, the tobacco use, everything.. fuck.

  me..

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  believingxjw

  Notverylikely,

  Go then and let the chips fall where they may but remember you chose the course you did. No, not the adultery the choosing to leave when you knew it would cost you. And most likely big time. Please, don't come back crying, like so many here, that your kids will not visit you or will not speak to you. If you do not choose fading that is your right but remember they also have a right to do as you brought them up to do in their religion.

  You and your wife raised little JWs. Just because you choose to leave it does not mean they will like little robots and follow you.
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  Definitely getting DF'ed now

  by notverylikely in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  came out as an apostate to the wife, came out about the depression, anger at being second fiddle in her life to 9 old guys in brooklyn, came out about having turned atheist, came out about the indiscrections, the tobacco use, everything.. fuck.

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  believingxjw

  Notverylikely,

  I don't know you or your family but if you want to continue having a close relationship with your young children I think you should consider "repenting" and continue to attend meetings. Later when you feel it's right you can always fade. Don't put your children between you and your wife. Fade later and perhaps your relationship with them will be preserved. Don't let anger at the Watchtower rob you of your children!
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  Debt Problems and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by skeeter1 in

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  what can you tell me about jehovah's witnesses and their individual debts?

  - - do you see people get overextended on credit card debt?.

  - - is there an atititude that since the armegheddon is going to come "any time" that it's ok to charge up the debt?.

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  Moshe,

  I knew many JWs with union jobs and good pensions and they were not laughed at. Your KH friends must have been the fanatic types.
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  Debt Problems and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by skeeter1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what can you tell me about jehovah's witnesses and their individual debts?

  - - do you see people get overextended on credit card debt?.

  - - is there an atititude that since the armegheddon is going to come "any time" that it's ok to charge up the debt?.

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  believingxjw

  JWs are just like everyone else. Some have large debt some don't.
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  Letter to Phoenix Suns owner about AZ immigration laws

  by startingover in

  1. social
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  don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter.

  it's still a great analogy.

  the owner of the phoenix suns basketball team, robert sarver, opposes az's new immigration laws.

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  believingxjw

  Dark Side,

  I don't support illegal immigration. What I was attempting to point out was that the problem is more complicated than just throwing illegals out of the country. Many of them serve in needed jobs, jobs that most Americans would not do. And if those jobs should start paying higher wages who is going to go quietly to market and pay the higher prices? It's a complicated issue, was my point. Obviously I failed to make it.
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  Letter to Phoenix Suns owner about AZ immigration laws

  by startingover in

  1. social
  2. current

  don't know if this is authentic or not, but it really doesn't matter.

  it's still a great analogy.

  the owner of the phoenix suns basketball team, robert sarver, opposes az's new immigration laws.

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  believingxjw

  Illegal immigration is wrong, period. It is against the law of the land. But I have yet to read how those illegally in this country who work in the fields picking whatever will be replaced?

  Will American citizens fill the gap when it comes to picking the fields and doing the low pay manual labor?
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  Is it unacceptable to stand up for Jehovah's Witnesses on a site called Jehovah's-Witness.net?

  by THE GLADIATOR in

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  i fail to see why people such as alice in wonderland, bane and others, are regularly singled out as tolls.

  demands are repeatedly made that they are shunned and thrown off the forum; while people like perry, who rant on with pages of controversial drivel, are considered acceptable?.

  i personaly don't view any of them as trolls, just people who feel a need to stand up for what they believe.

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  believingxjw

  You bring up the dual nature of this board. Is JWN only a nurturing place that helps exJWs to heal or is it also a place that invites JWs to participate, defending their beliefs and their faith in the Watchtower? Is this a closed board or one open to all ideas even those that may offend former Witnesses? I'm not the owner, Simon must answer that.
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  Is it unacceptable to stand up for Jehovah's Witnesses on a site called Jehovah's-Witness.net?

  by THE GLADIATOR in

  1. jw
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  i fail to see why people such as alice in wonderland, bane and others, are regularly singled out as tolls.

  demands are repeatedly made that they are shunned and thrown off the forum; while people like perry, who rant on with pages of controversial drivel, are considered acceptable?.

  i personaly don't view any of them as trolls, just people who feel a need to stand up for what they believe.

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  believingxjw

  Wasblind,

  "Maybe so, but do she have to respond ? Nooooooo."

  We claim to be the ones who "see", Wasblind. If a JW comes here and insults us they are JWs not "seeing" folks as we claim to be. Yes, they respond, that's why they come here! If we respond as well, then we should expect them to defend themselves and yes, even at times be offending. Most of us did not go softly into the exJW night/world.
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  Is it unacceptable to stand up for Jehovah's Witnesses on a site called Jehovah's-Witness.net?

  by THE GLADIATOR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i fail to see why people such as alice in wonderland, bane and others, are regularly singled out as tolls.

  demands are repeatedly made that they are shunned and thrown off the forum; while people like perry, who rant on with pages of controversial drivel, are considered acceptable?.

  i personaly don't view any of them as trolls, just people who feel a need to stand up for what they believe.

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  believingxjw

  Twitch,

  "Perhaps it would be mindful not to confuse the ethics of an internet discussion group with your personal feelings for someone close to you."

  Wow! Now you know my personal feelings do you? It's not enough to discuss the facts and merits of the subject being discussed but you attempt to make this a personal thing now? Why is that? Why the personal attack? I have no personal interest in this thread. What I seek is common sense.
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  Is it unacceptable to stand up for Jehovah's Witnesses on a site called Jehovah's-Witness.net?

  by THE GLADIATOR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i fail to see why people such as alice in wonderland, bane and others, are regularly singled out as tolls.

  demands are repeatedly made that they are shunned and thrown off the forum; while people like perry, who rant on with pages of controversial drivel, are considered acceptable?.

  i personaly don't view any of them as trolls, just people who feel a need to stand up for what they believe.

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  believingxjw

  Wasblind,

  In the KH we were not allowed to freely speak in disagreement. Here we are. Does it make sense to disallow a JW from speaking freely here when we claim to be free of the JW religion? So Alice says stupid and insulting stuff, does that mean we must read it or respond to it? No. Every time we respond to an insulting JW we encourage them to continue insulting us. Rather than getting upset with what what they say how about ignoring their threads altogether? Eventually they'll move on and freedom of conscience will be preserved for them and us.