Liberator said: Bart Ehrman is another one. By means of careful words he misleads people to draw a conclusion that simply isn't true. It might be technically true,
...but really inconvenient?
since i have left the watchtower's dung behind, reading and learning has accelerated at an unbelievable pace for me.
i am sure that is true for most here.
i have always been a big time reader.
Liberator said: Bart Ehrman is another one. By means of careful words he misleads people to draw a conclusion that simply isn't true. It might be technically true,
...but really inconvenient?
so there was a mention yesterday about "next year's" branch visit and this being streamed.. is there a chance these will become the new regional convention?
consider the evidence:.
- branches being closed down or downsized.
as nowwhat? and sir82 says, as long as they make money they will stay. However in countries where they don't make a profit I could absolutely see it happening...
In this scenario, where would they get baptized?
It's definitely a huge step up in production, but some of the scenes looked fake even in the fast-cut trailer. I still have high hopes a GB-approved script will make it utter shit :-)
Wonder if any part of it will be so WTF it will become meme-worthy?
W-T-F
holy crap, production value has just gone through the roof. I still have a feeling it will look like shit when it isn't cut down to a trailer but they have really stepped up their game. I guess Moses and David are going to be next?
It would be interesting to know what kind of money movies of this kind cost to make.
first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.
i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.
there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!
lol@Jehalapeno:
It's totally true.. its the classic chicken and egg scenario... matter has gravity we are told, but you can't have gravity without matter. So which came first? It just doesn't make any sense..
Scientists are just puppets of the system that parrots everything... it's all logical caps. Like where was matter 10 million years ago when the earth was formed? I wasn't there so we can't know, and it can't have been on the earth so where was it? Nobody knows. Einsteins theory of relativity is just loaded language and baseless assertions without any evidence or ways to account for why there is space. Millions of people reject the nonsense for good reason.
first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.
i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.
there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!
Hi Hadriel,
it is nice to see a criticism for evolution on this forum which is not simply a copy paste or mentions "dinosaur meat" :-)
As I read your post, you see the evolution of the most basic components of a modern cell (such as DNA) as being too large obstacles to plausibly have come around naturally.
I would recommend you to figure out exactly what single obstacle which is truly too large. There is a literature on the evolution of DNA, see for instance: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/ . What this literature assumes is that DNA evolved from RNA in several, smaller steps. Is what they say necessarily and obviously wrong? Are these steps impossible?.
You mentioned:
Where I have trouble is that we can't see it because it is slow and happened long ago. Well am I to believe that all the evolutionary chains all started at the same time so they are in a phase that isn't visible today? You mean none started 1 billion years ago, 100 million ago, 1 million ago
The conditions on the early earth is known to have been very different than they are today, for instance our atmosphere contains oxygen which breaks down organic compounds. However suppose life did start again, that somewhere there is a small environment with self-replicating string of RNA. How would we know?. What evolution does is that it optimize organisms. So suppose a very small protocell managed to evolve, what happens when it comes into contact with a modern cell that has evolved for more than 3 billion years?
i have been wondering why your organization cannot accept evolution?
(when i say "cannot accept" i mean: you see it as anti christian) the reason i'm so curious about this is because by putting this here i hope to get smarter answers than i usually get, and also because you don't seem to put things like quantum theory, string theory, under the "evil scary scientific stuff label", also many religions have accepted evolution as most likely possible, or as something that is ok to believe since god could have used evolution to create mankind, in fact evolution isn't a "religion" and automatically doesn't get you labeled as an atheist, unless you are talking to the wrong person.
i am by no means trying to make you believe in evolution, i will respect you views, i believe every man has free will, well it kind of says it in the bible.