Posts by bohm

I have a question: does a commitment to free speech which implies that the use of racial slurs is okay also mean that when the left use very expansive definitions of the words "racist" and "fascist" that is okay as well?

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Trump vows to repeal limits on churches

by StarTrekAngel in

i know the jws would not necessarily take advantage of this (or may be they would) but certainly, they will spin it off somehow.. https://www.yahoo.com/news/religious-looking-trump-protections-081209487--politics.html.

bohm

Sir82: A joke I saw on twitter was that they should just build a fake oval office and do a Truman show on him. Heck, for that I would don a MAGA hat once a year and meet up in DC to celebrate that he had nuked Narnia.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Balaamsass2: Delegitimization at all costs...

Here is the opinion of a lawyer:

https://lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas

The malevolence of President Trump’s Executive Order on visas and refugees is mitigated chiefly—and perhaps only—by the astonishing incompetence of its drafting and construction.
(...)
This order reads to me, frankly, as though it was not reviewed by competent counsel at all.
(...)
Let’s start with the malevolence of the document, which Amira Mikhail summarized and Adham Sahloul analyzed earlier today. I don’t use the word “malevolence” here lightly. As readers of my work know, I believe in strong counterterrorism powers. I defend non-criminal detention. I’ve got no problem with drone strikes. I’m positively enthusiastic about American surveillance policies. I was much less offended than others were by the CIA’s interrogations in the years after September 11. I have defended military commissions.
Some of these policies were effective; some were not. Some worked out better than others. And I don’t mean to relitigate any of those questions here. My sole point is that all of these policies were conceptualized and designed and implemented by people who were earnestly trying to protect the country from very real threats. And the policies were, to a one, proximately related to important goals in the effort. While some of these policies proved tragically misguided and caused great harm to innocent people, none of them was designed or intended to be cruel to vulnerable, concededly innocent people. Even the CIA’s interrogation program, after all, was deployed against people the agency believed (mostly correctly) to be senior terrorists of the most dangerous sort and to garner information from them that would prevent attacks.
I actually cannot say that about Trump’s new executive order—and neither can anyone else.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Simon:

The ideology of Islam is much closer to Nazism than anything (Hitler was inspired by it and Muslim countries fought on their side and made up their own SS brigades). So it's ironic that the left is so adamant to support it (I mean the general left, not just the extremists).

It is impossible to have a reasoned discussion on this topic if you will not acknowledge I have the opinions I do in fact have. I know that you know this is a fallacy in other contexts so I do not know why this has to be an issue.

We've already repeated the mistake of shutting the door to those most at risk just like boatloads of Jews were turned away from the US to die in concentration camps.
Why not check who is allowed in and who isn't? It would be a bad idea to let the modern day nazis in after all wouldn't it?

..which is why a country-by-country ban is a bad idea, especially when not banning the countries that have actually send terrorist (curiously, Trump does not have business ties to those countries banned).

You did not say if we should fear muslims by the way. General Flynn believes that is rational...

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Do your own research if you're interested.

Well I did. Didn't find anything concrete...

The have Syrian immigrants, how many are refugees is debatable. The fact is the surrounding Islamic countries (with some exceptions) aren't the defacto destinations you would imagine they should be.

Ah, they ARE in fact taking in a whole bunch of refugees :-). Isn't it something like 500'000 in Saudi Arabia and about 20'000 in the USA?

Individual Muslims? No. Islam and Sharia? Yes. Islam takes over and trashes civilizations. It's an ideology that measures its advance in centuries, not the short-term that we tend to view things in.

Well I have something to say about the "love the sinner hate the sin" attitude. but for now I will only quote General Flynn: "Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL: please forward this to others: the truth fears no questions..."

I think they value the country that Obama gifted to them more.

What do you mean?

I have to pass the rest of your post. I don't think I can explain my position if you do not acknowledge the difference between the far left and the left.. it is very frustrating that I must answer for beliefs that I vocally oppose and have opposed for all the years I have been on this board.

This might interest you regarding who is running the country:

Steve Bannon has, BTW, just replaced the director of the joint chiefs of staff/Director of national intelligence on the principals committee on the NSC so expect more from him in the future...

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

No one likes when the opposition wins, but that is democracy, so suck it up princess.

I have "sucked it up" but that does not mean I can't oppose what I believe Trump represents or the policies that he tries to enact.

Be aware that the macho rhetoric --suck it up princess-- cuts both ways: I could also say that people are free to protest (true) and you should suck it up. I could also say you were a princess! But I recognize that is not fair.

I am becoming more and more convinced Trump will not last long and it will become clear just what he is.

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

3rdgen: I don't want to question your daughters motives/reasons. My point is that I think there are plenty of legitimate concerns about Trump that are worth demonstrating. Did you read the story I posted?

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

Her close aids links to them, family ties etc...

Try to spell it out. I am curious if you know something I don't know.

Tens of millions of dollars in payments from Islamist governments. Because they are known for being so charitable - just look at the tens of zeros of refugees they have taken in.

You want to take a bet on that? Are you really going to claim Saudi Arabia has not taken in refugees?!

Don't get your news from alt-right. They are usually all-wrong.

Whatever you want to say about Trump, he seems to have more of an idea about ISIS than Obama. The left is making a big stink about anything and everything he does. Take "The Muslim Ban" which isn't ... it's a limited halt for certain unstable countries and doesn't affect the vast majority of mostly Muslim countries.

Do you think we should fear muslims?

Trump just gave ISIS a gigantic propaganda victory. Travel is banned from exactly 0 countries which participated in 9/11. Can you remind me again when a terorrist from the banned countries last carried out a terror attack on US soil?

Lots of outcry. Lots of wailing. Accusations of racism. Unconstitutional. You name it, the left scream it.

Notice how this is a go-to strategy: I raise concerns about specific proposals that Trump does and your answer has to do with "some people's" emotions (wailing, screaming, outcry, etc.).

Do you think the ban is a good thing?

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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?

by Simon in

it seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.

i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?

... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?

bohm

3rdgen:

I disagree. It had a clear direction: We don't want Trump and what he represents. That it organized itself so rapidly is just a testament to how popular that message is.

I also wish to say that judging from how busy people are to say it didn't accomplish anything and was ridiculous there are reasons to disagree :-).