Posts by bohm

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Chelmsford is green-lighted

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

bohm

Re what bluesbrothers said here are the existing temple farms plan:

I just checked, it appears to be archived on waybackmachine

http://www.templefarmdevelopment.co.uk/proposal

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

bohm

Lol yes I see your point. I also see that having these laws of nature, is evidence of guidance. But I don't disagree I just have a different perspective.

So what you are really proposing is the argument of natural laws, i.e. the existence of laws (such as those guiding auto-catalysis and other chemistry) implies the existence of a creator?

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

bohm

I have concluded that evolution is guided. I see that molecules formed of a specific symmetry because they were guided by auto-catalysis.

Just to clarify: You have concluded that the evolution of these molecules are guided by auto-catalysis (a natural process), but how do you then go from concluded that their evolution is guided by a natural process to being guided by God? Isn't this in contradiction?

Presumably, auto-catalysisis not violating any laws of nature?

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

bohm

Hi Kate,

I am not sure I understand the exact argument you are spelling out. I think we agree that nature only use left-handed amino acids for good reasons -- if an organism produces a mixture of left-and-right handed amino acids the right-handed variants would not be able to function with the left handed ones and at best they would be useless (but expensive) to produce and most likely (as I understand it) they would gunk up the inner workings of the cell due to their interaction with the left-handed counterparts. This is true regardless if evolution created life or if God did.

My point is that if we naively imagine different cells where one cell produce 100% left-handed molecules, another produce 90% left handed and so on then the cells that produced predominantly left-handed amino acids would have a benefit over the others and, accordingly, evolution would select for them. In other words this seems like a straight-forward problem to explain with natural selection.

For this to be a real challenge for evolution, I suppose one would have to argue that machinery that only produced molecules of one particular symmetry could not have evolved for some specific reason; but I haven't seen such an argument.

If I am missing something, can you spell out exactly what your argument is?

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

bohm

konceptual99: Please let us know how it went!. I think it is a great idea that should be spread more; If I ever go to a convention I will do it just for fun.

I don't want to alarm you, but make sure that you are not accidentally sharing anything by default on your phone like photos (I would try to connect to the phone with another computer and click around to see if anything showed).

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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

bohm

Bye again! I hope it will be a "postmodern leave-for-good" and you will check in again later when things clear up ;-)

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Chelmsford is green-lighted

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

bohm

Even toilet water can be treated and recycled for showers - it sounds yucky but it happens a fair bit these days; you don't read much about it as the hotels etc. that do it are scared of it putting off the customers. Add to that, new buildings cost less to maintain anyway.

Thanks for ruining my day!

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Chelmsford is green-lighted

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

bohm

BTW. Thanks for posting the mail (where are my manners?).

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Great Tribulation alert?: Russia signs new restrictions that bans almost all forms of religious preaching outside recognized churches.

by redpilltwice in

this morning, my wife showed me this online article (written yesterday evening july 11, 2016) from dutch newspaper "trouw":.

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4716/christendom/article/detail/4337852/2016/07/11/rusland-verbiedt-thuiskerken-en-meeste-geloofsverkondiging.dhtml.

to me, this seems to be one serious step further, and together with the convention bunker video's it will surely fuel the persecution-syndrome and expectations of the great tribulation even more than it already did!

bohm

I just threw out five avocados because they are hard and the end is so close!

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Albany RC...Trans Union Article. Lots of empty seats!

by ToesUp in

times union jehovahs witnesses assembly.

did anyone attend the albany assembly?

the photos in this article shows many empty seats!.

bohm

That's one way to put it, except that the difficult circumstances are caused by the organization itself! Quite an important piece of information he left out there, don't you think?

Yah, and when they say "do what is right" then "right" means "what we say" and includes emotionally blackmailing your kids out of a hobby, killing yourself by refusing blood and shunning your kids.

We must give it to the JWs that they got the upper hand when it comes to press contact... every year they get to peddle bullshit in press fluff pieces.