found this article, it's way easier to understand than watchtower's definition of a generation!.
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/satellite?c=learning_c&childpagename=uklearningcenter%2flearning_c%2fpagedefault&pagename=learningwrapper&cid=1265124426382.
how long is a generation?in general we think of a generation being about 25 years - from the birth of a parent to the birth of a child.
In the bible a generation is 40 years. If you look at Jesus' Geneology to the "generations" involved it fits perfectly into the 40 year mold. Jesus said "Generation" with Jerusalem's destruction and 34 years later - done.
I have not talked to any JW that feels their Generation explanation is a real thing. So sad.....
i have a question, primarily for trinitarians, but anyone's more than welcome to comment.
what scriptural basis is there for believing in the trinity?
i can understand some having the view that jesus/jehovah both can be worshipped, and the view that jesus should be, but where in the bible is the holy spirit worshipped?
For me it is simple. One scripture could be wrong (either the writer or the translation) however the overall relationship is ALWAYS Father and Son. Jesus is the son of God. God is THE Father. It was given to us to understand - One gives life to the other and is superior.
Unlike JWs and others I do believe Jesus is everything his Father is. The only differences are eternity and position. That is what Father/Son means. My son is 4" taller than me and could woop my ass, but I am still the father. He is everything I am. He has my power, my intelligence, my abilities, but not my age or position. I gave life to him, but he is only inferior in position not in quality or substance. That is where confusion comes in with Jesus. He is God in ability, but not position.
For either side of the debate I would love to hear a scripture that refutes this understanding..............
i have a question, primarily for trinitarians, but anyone's more than welcome to comment.
what scriptural basis is there for believing in the trinity?
i can understand some having the view that jesus/jehovah both can be worshipped, and the view that jesus should be, but where in the bible is the holy spirit worshipped?
Thanks quiet one. I am formed in God's image I am no worm. I believe God and Jesus explained themselves perfectly well. In a way a "child" can understand fully. Anything "over our heads" is obviously not vital for salvation.
i have a question, primarily for trinitarians, but anyone's more than welcome to comment.
what scriptural basis is there for believing in the trinity?
i can understand some having the view that jesus/jehovah both can be worshipped, and the view that jesus should be, but where in the bible is the holy spirit worshipped?
I've posted less than half as much as you Still Thinking, so I still like these threads too. It is so basic to "Christians", but so "I don't care" to Atheist/Humanists. For me I don't have "Faith" in anything. I am a person learning everyday and I hope to continue learning everyday until I acheive Nirvana......or Heaven......or Paradise Earth....... any where but here!
christina perri,"jar of hearts".
but i'd rather have my teeth drilled than listen to you wail about it.
does your therapy have to include making the rest of the world miserable?.
Even worse now. They changed all the songs to fit "new light". I used to at least like singing now it is mostly crap. Give me the old pink song book anyday.
christina perri,"jar of hearts".
but i'd rather have my teeth drilled than listen to you wail about it.
does your therapy have to include making the rest of the world miserable?.
Really - not "We built this city on Rock and Roll" stupidist lyrics. Maybe "Safety Dance"....
if you beleive the bible account in genesis when cain killed abel, why didn`t jehovah/yahweh kill cain right then and their.?
" an eye for an eye"!!.
apparently cain had no remorse for killing his brother and was only concerned that someone would come after him to avenge abels death,so what does the almighty god jehovah do ?
The God of the bible has always been more practical than moral. Multiple wives, prostitution, brother-in-law marriage (creepy), allows for HIS purpose. He needed Cain for genetic diversity and couldn't cut it short, I guess....
to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace.
some of you may have recently observed some discussions regarding what... or rather, who... the word of god is, truly.
in those and other threads, some participants weren't able to grasp the difference between discussion vs. contention... and defending their own faith... and love of god and christ... vs. ramming their [mis]assumptions as to the "vengeance of god"... down others' throats.
Thanks for your input.
When I say "evidence" I mean reasonable proveable facts. I think Jesus could easily be an "adopted" human/ There are scriptures that indicate otherwise, but scriptures..... that have changed that disagree? I don't know.
I'm OK if you take everything I say as a question.
Look forward to more input tomorrow. Thanks.
hey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.
he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??
they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.
There is no rule anywhere ever that would stop them from seeing the grandson as much as they wanted.
Both of my sisters have been disfellowshipped once or twice and even as an elder I was encouraged to see my neice and nephews as much as possible. (As was/is my mother and stepdad) It is against their OWN teachings that a child should be shunned because their parents.
god to me would be as refreshing as a cold beer on a summers day.. today iam an atheist.
iam no longer a beliver in other peoples idea of god.
yet iam thirsty to find a god.
Atheism makes sense, but it doesn't feel right. How can we be special without a god to create us? How can we be forever without our immortal soul?
On the same journey tho I still believe in God/intelligent design for = the spark of life, and human conciousness. Humans are special in a way that happened 10 - 20 thousand years ago. No evolutionary reason, we just suddenly had speech and art and agriculture. We made a leap the Neanderthals could not in 200,00 years? (not sure the #'s)
Still like God as the simplest answer there. But I know that I don't know - the true beginning of wisdom.
