Posts by ablebodiedman

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If you started an organisation (related to exposing the Watchtower, helping Jw's who are disfellowshipped, or any other worthy cause).. What would it be called and what would you aim to achieve?

by The Quiet One in

jw
friends

...?.

ablebodiedman

I think the organization should be called ............... Armageddon.

What would it aim to achieve?

I think the mandate should be to remove the carcasses of the fornicating kings from the Watchtower Society and its spirit directed organization.

The blessings for acheiving that mandate are extraordinary! Highlighted in red below:

Ezekiel 43:7-9

“Son of man, [this is] the place of my throne and the place of the soles of my feet, where I shall reside
in the midst of the sons of Israel to time indefinite; and no more will they, the house of Israel, defile
my holy name, they and their kings, by their fornication and by the carcasses of their kings at their
death, 8 by their putting their threshold with my threshold and their doorpost beside my doorpost, with
the wall between me and them. And they defiled my holy name by their detestable things that they did, so
that I went exterminating them in my anger. 9 Now let them remove their fornication and the carcasses of
their kings far from me, and I shall certainly reside in the midst of them to time indefinite.

abe

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Why I believe my baptism was not valid. (welcome comments)

by thebeliever in

when i was 11 or 12, my best friend (who's father was also an elder) suggested i get some of my mom's cigarettes for us to smoke.

sounded like a good idea, so i did and we tried it.

i thought it was horrible, but she had done it before and whatever.

ablebodiedman

The Jehovah's Witnesses requirement for a baptism to be valid is a full immersion.

If your whole body does not go under the water then your baptism is not complete.

So what is the very last part of the body to go under the water?

The forehead or ......... the hand?

and

Beyond Jesus Christ and Jehovah, what extraneous name are you marked with?

and

Is that name a "mans number"?

and

Can that number be calculated?

abe

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What do you believe about the bible?

by bethelyellowdollarbag in

i'm interested in how we all view the bible?.

let me start by offering three different options:.

a.. a book that at best may have cultural or historical interest but that is it.. b.. a divinely inspired guide that i consult to make important life choices.

ablebodiedman

Onthewayout,

Thanks for clearing that up. (Could you all read sarcasm in that?)
No sarcasm intended.
I am being completely sincere!
You asked a very good question which can indeed be resolved by reading the bible.
An excellent opportunity to validate my statement:
The Ex-Jehovah's Witness community is THE key target audience for the bible.
Our own spiritual predicament can be measured and understood by reading it.
Contemplate this scripture which is considered and end time prophecy:
Isaiah 66:5-6
5 Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: “YOUR brothers that are hating YOU, that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame.”6 There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies.
A large number of the Ex-Jehovah's Witness community are Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses because they were disfellowshipped.
They were indeed excluded by reason of God's name ............ Jehovah.
An anouncement is made from the Kingdom Hall Platform that; "[Name of person] is no longer a Jehovah's Witness"
Is there any other world wide religion who do this?
Also notice in verse 6 that it is all about enemies in the temple of THE God.
Which brings us back to what I said about 2nd Thessalonians in posts above.
THE key target audience of the bible is the Ex-Jehovah's Witness community.
Yes, it IS all about us.
abe

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What do you believe about the bible?

by bethelyellowdollarbag in

i'm interested in how we all view the bible?.

let me start by offering three different options:.

a.. a book that at best may have cultural or historical interest but that is it.. b.. a divinely inspired guide that i consult to make important life choices.

ablebodiedman

We have another "prophet" in the makings. So does God lead people to the "lie" so that they can arrive at the truth when they are ex-JW's?
Yes!

So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie,

I am still not clear, Ablebodiedman.
But if you are saying God deliberately led anyone to Jehovah's Witnesses, then He's a real a**hole.
2nd Thessalonians describes the condition of "true Christianity immediately before Jesus Christ returns.
The "man of lawlessness" enters the temple of THE God.
The Watchtower Society would like the rank and file to believe this happens to false religion however, the paradox is that
it happens to the temple of THE God. So is THE temple in false religion or true religion? Do you see the paradox?
Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses at one time were Jehovah's Witnesses which, means they also at one time agreed to be baptized fully agreeing with ALL the doctrine!
We believed it! ................................. right!
We believed the lie!
Millions Now Living Will Never Die.
They postively will not die.
The original sin.
Satan has had spectacular success using the very same lie he told at the start.
Humiliating isn't it!
We thought we were rich!
abe

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What do you believe about the bible?

by bethelyellowdollarbag in

i'm interested in how we all view the bible?.

let me start by offering three different options:.

a.. a book that at best may have cultural or historical interest but that is it.. b.. a divinely inspired guide that i consult to make important life choices.

ablebodiedman

We have another "prophet" in the makings. So does God lead people to the "lie" so that they can arrive at the truth when they are ex-JW's?
Yes!

So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie,

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IT IS NOT A CULT!!

by Butterflyleia85 in

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friends

it is not a cult!!!

if you weren't mesmerized by the internet since ya know it never lies!

read the bible how do they go against it.

ablebodiedman

I believe the Internet was prophecied in the bible.

Here:

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Revelation12:15-16
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Can you think of anything else the Earth has provided which is more capable of swallowing up the lies?
abe
And the serpent disgorged water like a river from its mouth after the woman, to cause her to be drowned by the river. 16 But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon disgorged from its mouth.

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What do you believe about the bible?

by bethelyellowdollarbag in

i'm interested in how we all view the bible?.

let me start by offering three different options:.

a.. a book that at best may have cultural or historical interest but that is it.. b.. a divinely inspired guide that i consult to make important life choices.

ablebodiedman

I am a disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witness

The bible is an extraordinary book.

I read the bible throughout the days prior to, during and after my judicial committee meeting and everything happening to me made sense!

Much of what the bible prophecies about has already happened and is currently happening just as it said it would.

There is absolutely no reason for an Ex-Jehovah's Witness to start disbelieving the bible simply because they are now an Ex-Witness.

In fact I am convinced that the Ex-Jehovah's Witness community is THE key target audience for the bible.

It is the only reason I read and sometimes post on this forum.

I know it is at the expense of being ridiculed by the now athiest Ex-Witnesses however, I do understand

that there ARE others who may be resident any many more just passing through who will symphathize with my comviction.

abe

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For All Jehovah's Witnesses: When did Jesus begin ruling as King?

by Darth Rutherford in

to all jehovah's witnesses, here is an easy question you can answer... when did jesus begin ruling as king?.

watch tower answers:.

following his resurrection, jesus ascended to heaven and waited at gods right hand until 1914 to begin ruling as king.

ablebodiedman

I believe Jesus Christ has been ruling as king since his resurrection

The better question to ask though is when God's kingdom will start.

I think most people would agree that God set up Jesus Christs kingdom in the first century almost 2000 years ago.

In light of this now read Daniel 2:44 again:

Daniel 2:44

And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms.

Did you get that?

Jesus Christs kingdom will be/is ruined!

Yes, that is a difficult notion for Christians to bear.

When Jesus Christ returns it will be the end of HIS kingdom.

So back to Daniel 2:44 and ask yourselves the question about exactly what God will set up?

The mountain is Jesus Christs kingdom.

The stone (remnant) is presently being cut out.

abe

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Was Judas present for the passing of the emblems?

by Lore in

memorial is this tuesday.

while explaining the significance of consuming the booze and bread it is quite likely the speaker is going to make a passing remark about how jesus made sure that judas would not be present to partake.. of course he won't explain his reason for saying that.

but here is some food for thought while you're stuck sitting there listening to it:.

ablebodiedman

Apognophos ,

Well, in the last days immediately before Jesus Christ returns things are supposed change.

Satan and his "man of lawlessness" are in the temple established by Jesus Christ.

Should we really partake with those kind of people?

The bible also makes it clear that those who follow Jesus Christ will be excomunicated (disfellowshipped) in the last days.

See Isaiah 66:5, John 16:1-3, Romans 9:25-26

So considering the circumstances I find it very refreshing that Jesus Christ made a very special alllowance for the "evening meal" to continue

in a very individualistic way.

The circumstances certainly justify it!

abe

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The reason they like to highlight the suffering of Jesus at the memorial

by Xanthippe in

is so they can then use it as an excuse to make the congregation work even harder.

surely if jesus had six-inch nails hammered through his hands you can do more in field service.. if jesus could die of slow asphyxiation on the torture stake you can get to the convention even if you have four kids and two jobs or are 93 and nearly blind.. you are letting jesus down and making his agony count for nothing if you don't give until it hurts.. this is why they talk about a man being tortured to death in graphic detail in front of little children as i once was at the kingdon hall.

this is why i dreaded the memorial..

ablebodiedman

The reason I dreaded the Memorial Service inside a Kingdom Hall was because I was afraid that Jesus Christ might come back and find me there:

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Matthew24:49-51

and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.

Did not want to be eating and drinking with the confirmed drunkards!

abe