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  "Poissonous falsehoods" according to 3rd Witness

  by cattails in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  holly berry and heather berry.

  v.. watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.,.

  wilton congregation of jehovah's witnesses,.

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  HOLLY BERRY and HEATHER BERRY

  v.

  WATCHTOWER BIBLE and TRACT SOCIETY OF NEW YORK, INC.,
  WILTON CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES,
  and PAUL BERRY

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  I happened to visit the Wilton, New Hampshire, Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  To my surprise the place of the famous case of Sara Poisson against her husband Paul Berry for sexual abuse of her girls.

  There are several JWs I met who would swear that he was framed and he was innocent of the charges.

  You can read about the trial at Silent Lambs:

  http://www.silentlambs.org/education/jwjustice.cfm

  3rd Witness has, wouldn't you know it, come up with a page saying it was all "Poissonous" lies (note the misspelling of 3rd Witness to poke fun at the mom).

  http://thirdwitness.com/childabuse/Poissonous.html

  Had you heard of this case and if you were close or met the family involved back then did you notice anything amiss going on?

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  Previous JWD thread from nine years ago that talks about the case:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/9675/1/News-Story-2
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  Do Elders and Bethelites really follow this site?

  by jamesmahon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a question really and whilst i would not put it past them i sort of feel it is too 'conspiracy theory' for me.

  are elders and bethelites officially sanctioned to lurk (or engage) in this or other sites to try to weedle out apostates?

  does anyone have any direct experience of it happening?.

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  The only people immune to the truth are those who have no regard for it.

  That's right Essan, the ones they appoint the dirty task are those in the legal Dept. probably WT lawyers.

  Those who follow in the steps of Covington and Rutherford.

  To people like that the "Truth" is whatever is said by those who win the argument.
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  UN & NGO - PRO-WT Apologetics is TOP HIT on Google search!

  by Essan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i typed in 'watchtower ngo' into google search the other day and was shocked to see that the top result was for a pro-wtbts site called 'jehovahsjudgement'.

  i'm very disappointed by this because it means that one of the first sites jw's searching for the truth about the society's involvement with the un are going to come across is this deceitful apologetics page which tries to make it seem like the society affiliating with the un is no big deal and perfectly acceptable!.

  this pro-wtbts site is successfully debunked by a response site - http://jehovahsjudgmentexposed.blogspot.com/ - which takes apart their excuses and manipulative deceptions fairly expertly, but still, this site doesn't appear when you do a google search and i had to look really hard to find it.

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  cattails

  Here's an interesting conversation about Al Taylor and 3rd Witness:

  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091124124205AAh5aAB

  The question posed was:

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  Is Al Taylor, the Watchtower 3rd Witness, employed by Jehovah's Witnesses?

  Since it has come out that the identity of the Third Witness, Jehovah Witness apologist, is Al Taylor of England, does anyone know if he is actually getting pated by the Watchtower to publish propaganda for the Watchtower? I can imagine it takes quite a bit of money to maintain his web sites and print hard copies of his propaganda. Is he getting payed by the Watchtower? Does he count the time he invests in his elaborate defenses of the Watchtower's association with the Wild Beast of Revelation?
  
  I also noticed that our bar-enosh is a regular poster on the Third Witness websites. Could Bar-Enosh be none other than Al Taylor, the secret Third Witness of Revelation?

  Additional Details

  It's not an accusation it's a question. Why so many JWs up in arms about it? They obviously look upon this Third Witness as a sort of prophet. They sure do defend him as if he were one of the Governing body!

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  Some of the answers at yahoo to the above question and asker are just plain mean-spirited and very abusive of character, are these people Christians responding? Wow!
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  UN & NGO - PRO-WT Apologetics is TOP HIT on Google search!

  by Essan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i typed in 'watchtower ngo' into google search the other day and was shocked to see that the top result was for a pro-wtbts site called 'jehovahsjudgement'.

  i'm very disappointed by this because it means that one of the first sites jw's searching for the truth about the society's involvement with the un are going to come across is this deceitful apologetics page which tries to make it seem like the society affiliating with the un is no big deal and perfectly acceptable!.

  this pro-wtbts site is successfully debunked by a response site - http://jehovahsjudgmentexposed.blogspot.com/ - which takes apart their excuses and manipulative deceptions fairly expertly, but still, this site doesn't appear when you do a google search and i had to look really hard to find it.

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  The jehovahsjudgment_co_uk website smells like something Momma WT Society made to look like someone not connected with the official website may have put together. Something smells fishy and awful close to the Brooklyn bridge.

  1. Active witnesses aren't supposed to get involved in making webpages devoted to apologetics. They are to point people to the Watchtower_org website.

  2. The way the Chapters synopsis appears on the first page is very reminiscent of the treatment of articles in the official website, i.e. a professionally made graphic with a little text and bolded title.

  3. In the Spanish XJW forum there was talk awhile back that the Watchtower Society had invited some brothers with Web development skills to write pages, one brother was from Mexico if I recall.

  4. The arguments made in the jj-co-uk website are quite similar to the official responses given to people who received letters back from Momma WT HQ about the NGO "affair".

  If the WT wanted they would contact the person and discuss why he's not following the official recommendation about personal witnessing pages. The persons name is given in the WHOIS lookup...

  Here's the WHOIS info for the domain (but note you don't have to be in the UK to host a webpage in the UK, so Al Taylor could be anywhere, even at Brooklyn, Patterson or Wallkill for all we know):

  Domain name: jehovahsjudgment.co.uk Registrant: Al Taylor Registrant type: UK Individual Registrant's address: The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the WHOIS service. Registrar: Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-Reg.co.uk [Tag = 123-REG] URL: http://www.123-reg.co.uk Relevant dates: Registered on: 29-Oct-2008 Renewal date: 29-Oct-2010 Last updated: 29-Oct-2008 Registration status: Registered until renewal date. Name servers: ns1.openhosts.com ns2.openhosts.com WHOIS lookup made at 03:31:33 15-Aug-2010
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  Jehovahs Witness Music - on Amazon.com

  by cattails in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  have you ever heard of jehovahs witness music - on amazon.com ?.

  quite a funky music beat behind the reading of scripture.

  click on.

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  Have you ever heard of Jehovahs Witness Music - on Amazon.com ?

  Quite a funky music beat behind the reading of Scripture. Click on

  the sample mp3 links to hear some of it. Do you think the WTS knows

  about this product, and the maker of such recordings using the name

  Jehovah's Witness Music?

  http://www.amazon.com/Jehovahs-Witness-Music/dp/B001R6KAVK/

  
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  How would the diehard witnesses view this ?

  by man in black in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this video was sent to me earlier today, and it really hit a nerve with me,,,,, i just couldn't stop applying it to the witness belief of df and da.. i've known quite a few witness parents over the years who just left their kids "on the roadside" because they no longer.

  wanted to be a part of this religion.. why is it that genuine human reaction/emotion is dropped when children no longer want to be a jw ?.

  this father seems to be quite a guy, notice how he yells at the security/medical person near the end no doubt to leave his son alone !.

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  Wow! I needed a good cry! That was an awesome vid.

  It's a real lesson on being a parent to one's children!
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  For WT Secret Agents Only

  by ruruj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just beating the bush for snakes... (sabre rattling).

  when reformers grow tired of shaking away their tree of snakes, scum and rotten fruit, they'll be surprised to see that beaconed and sheltered jws & ex-jw numbers have grown more than the number of wt loyal members; just because they kept ignoring their members' real welfare.

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  Back on topic... well, sort of...

  Ruruj why are you "beating the bush"? What did it do to you?

  Why not pick on someone of your own size? What's the glory in winning a fight with a bush?
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  For WT Secret Agents Only

  by ruruj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just beating the bush for snakes... (sabre rattling).

  when reformers grow tired of shaking away their tree of snakes, scum and rotten fruit, they'll be surprised to see that beaconed and sheltered jws & ex-jw numbers have grown more than the number of wt loyal members; just because they kept ignoring their members' real welfare.

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  ARRRGH, that be September 19th

  (every year, shiver me timbers) for

  International Talk Like A Pirate Day!

  http://www.talklikeapirate.com/

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day

  
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  Once again, Mormans show our experinces are not unique.

  by maninthemiddle in

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  cattails

  I see your point, M.i.t.Middle, the comparison is very true, there are a lot of cases of abuse and misogynistic behavior in high control religious cults, the Mormons and the WTS religion have a lot of parallels despite diverging religious doctrines. It's not what they teach so much as what they practice personally and organizationally that equates their religions of hate more than love.
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  Righteously Poisoning the Watchtower Well (Action Plan 3)

  by ruruj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  righteously "poisoning the well" of watchtower (wt) - nowadays this is a metaphorical expression.

  don't take it literally; no violence, no persecution, no stigmatizing.. most are not aware but they have been using this in one form or another.

  but using this on wt is difficult because wt is so strong, organized and effective that metaphorically only "spattered poison" reaches the well which by now starts to taste bitter.. for it to be righteous, it has to be truthful, no matter how scandalous.

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  cattails

  Ruruj, pardon if

  I say there's

  a Bonafide aroma

  about you.