In other faiths, they outright kill their unbelieving family. I'm not sure which is worse... torturing someone until they die or just ending it quickly for them.
Posts by Heaven
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TheAtlantic.com - Disowning a Daughter Over a Church
by defender of truth ina reader from south carolina has a heartbreaking story:" i am 31 years old.
i was raised in a strict bi-cultural (af-american and nigerian) jehovah’s witness family, one of six children.
though it’s generally looked down upon for jws to attend liberal arts universities (vocational schools are recommended), i somehow convinced my parents to allow me to go to university and major in theater (!!
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Heaven
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Start A Butterfly Garden!
by Bonsai intime to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
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Heaven
Hi tal!
So last week Wed-Fri we had another big storm...snow and ice. A lot of major tree damage. That all melted but now we're heading into another cold snap with below freezing temps and snow. It snowed overnight and we have snow forecasted for at least the next 3 days.
But the bulbs are growing at my Dad's place despite these conditions.
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Amazing Growth! Jehovah Is Blessing The Preaching Work!
by Divergent intoday's text:.
saturday, april 2. the little one will become a thousand.—isa.
60:22.. perhaps we live in an area where there are few witnesses or where we do not see a lot of immediate results in our preaching work.
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Heaven
Divergent said: On the other hand, if things are going well, they would say that Armageddon is near because peace & security would come before Armageddon! Either way they think they are right - problems = the end is near, when things are good = the end is near! It's almost impossible to reason with them!
And yet, Armageddon never arrives.
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Just because the JW'S are wrong doesnt mean theres no god.
by atomant inl;ve been giving this some serious consideration lately.l dont have all the answers no one does.we are all entitled to our opinions.l certainly dont believe in evolution as lve researched that subject extensively.lt's important to believe in something even if its for mental health.l believe everything happens for a reason.l also believe if we all live as close to the 10 commandments as possible this world would be a far better place to live and no one can argue with that.
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Heaven
Which god are you referring to? There are thousands.
Bronze and Iron Aged Middle Eastern desert dwellers' fantasies and mythology are no more true today than they were back then.
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Amazing Growth! Jehovah Is Blessing The Preaching Work!
by Divergent intoday's text:.
saturday, april 2. the little one will become a thousand.—isa.
60:22.. perhaps we live in an area where there are few witnesses or where we do not see a lot of immediate results in our preaching work.
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Heaven
LostGen nailed it. I think the Conscious Class should be stating this exact thing to their JW families. It would be interesting to see how long the GB clung to this stupidity once many started pointing out the idiocity of it.
It was this kind of logic I used on my Dad when he said the bad economy during the 'Great Recession' we recently went through was the reason Armageddon was so close. If a bad economy is the reason Armageddon will come then shouldn't it have already arrived during the 'Great Depression' of the 1930s and not the recent 'Great Recession'? Crickets ensued... and I got the deer-in-the-headlights look from Dad.
But this kind of GB / JW crap logic prevails.
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I can't take it anymore!
by BlackWolf inmy dad was recently made an elder about maybe 6 months ago, and now he is never around he's always at work or doing some kind of jw crap.
now he conducts the watchtower study and is even doing the special talk tommorow.
he's become an even more strict controlling jerk than he was before, and i'm never allowed to go out and do anything non jw related because he doesn't have the time.
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Heaven
Hi Black Wolf...
Can you tell us which Colleges you want to go to?
Have you started on your vision board or mission statement yet?
I know you love to draw... keep doing this. Can you share some of your artwork with us?
My parents went through a period of being mean-spirited, holier-than-thou. It was not easy to live with. I just focused on the things that gave me joy, avoided them as much as I could, and kept revisiting and creating/building my life plan.
When I was a kid, it was fairly easy for me to get away as we had a 100 acre farm and I could go exploring in the woods, go for a ride on one of my horses, or hide out in the hay mow in the barn. As an adult (and yes, they weren't nice to their adult children sometimes too), I would remain calm during the rants, give my logical input and then 'get busy' in the ensuing weeks which meant I couldn't visit them as much { my job was actually really busy at times ... life does get busy when you're an adult and have to do all the things your parents did for you as a kid ;0) }
I just let my parents have their rants but I wouldn't react. This is the hardest thing to do, but you can do it. Just keep saying to yourself, "I have a life plan and I am going to be leaving to execute that plan." Look at these rants as being an example of what NOT to do. Sometimes the people in our lives give us good examples to follow, other times, they give bad examples. Your Dad's rants are obviously of the bad variety.
I also got a job as a teenager in town so I had some money saved up to go to school. I got a loan from the government to pay for my College education. I paid that loan back too once I got a job.
Your life is yours to architect as you wish. Continue to focus on this.
Maybe every time your Dad has a rant, add a positive picture to your vision board.
Keep posting here too... we are listening and care about you Wolfie.
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Tell me what you think.
by Aroq inok, i'm willing, and thinking about going to the meetings, but there is a catch.
i'm not, nor ever be a jw.
i know too much about their beliefs.
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Heaven
Hi Aroq!
If you want your children to know you have integrity, and are intellectually honest, don't go. I certainly am in 100% agreement with shepherdless's method. Teach your children critical thinking skills. It is a highly valuable skill they can use all their lives.
Have you asked your wife why she wants to worship a god who creates evil? (Isaiah 45:7)
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Got in a bad wreck.....uuugh
by brandnew injust happy to be alive....can barely move ☺.. a girl who just got her license , and a new suv....thought it might be cool to pass the person in front of her....at a curve......on a two way road!!!!!😠😠😠.
very mad puppy.
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Heaven
Excellent news!
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The luck of the draw.
by atomant inlf you were unlucky enough to be born into the jw sect the chances are high that you became a witness.the same applies to most things in life.lf you were lucky enough to be born into a very rich family the chance is that you to will be rich.lf you were born into a third world impoverished family chances are you will suffer your entire life.my point is there is always someone worse off than you.the mere fact that your reading this means you are probably better off than roughly a third of the worlds population.a person dies every 4 seconds of hunger or hunger related causes and yet there is plenty of food available for everyone.so really its just a matter of keeping a proper prospective on things.theres a lot to be said about a pma (positive mental attitude).
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Heaven
"The luck of the draw" is definitely true for the religion/belief system someone is born into. This is not a choice a child is allowed to make. It is thrust upon them. A child born in the middle east is unlikely to be a Christian. It is only as we grow up and become better informed that we realize we have been manipulated. For me, this is just one of the many reasons that refutes the existence of God. Some many different flavours of faith/belief. And all with their 'My god is better than your god' underlying theme.
Everyone has choices they can make in life.
"If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it?
If your world is all screwed up, re-arrange it.
Raise a little hell, raise a little hell, raise a little hell" -- Trooper
I think it is a human responsibility to try to make our world a better place. Because we know there are those that are only out for themselves.
"When we do go, we feel good."
And just for the record... I was born into the pseudo-Christian religion Jehovah's Witnesses... but I am NOT a JW.
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Would we exist if Adam and Eve didn't sin?
by truth doubter inmy son asked me 40 years ago.
should we be glad adam sinned?
because if he hadn't, we would not be the person we are.. any opinions?
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Heaven
Cain's wife had to be one of his sisters... if you believe in the Adam and Eve story as literal truth.