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  Eggs - how would you like them done?

  by berrygerry in

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  post on another forum prompted this one.. wt is flip-flopping on the "no marriage for you" (voice of seinfeld soup nazi) to placate the 50% of jw women who will never marry "in this system.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/jesus-sadducees-marriage-after-resurrection/.

  however, we do know that wt also taught that marriage was for procreation.

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  What Happens To You When You Die?

  by minimus in

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  are our dead loved ones watching over us at all or are they really just gone now?

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  Our physical bodies help to perpetuate life on this planet by nourishing other living beings here on Earth, particularly soil dwelling organisms if we are buried. If our bodies or ashes fall upon the Earth, then they nourish above ground organisms/species as well.
  
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

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  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  Do I still believe in God? The simple answer is no.
  

  Gods and Goddesses are human constructs from ancient Bronze and Iron Aged peoples trying to define their worlds.

  Our knowledge has surpassed the requirement to believe in fantasy, mythology, and superstition as truth. I find it interesting that as our knowledge has increased, the instances of God speaking to humans has decreased proportionately, to the point where it is now only relegated to those who suffer from mental or auditory hallucinations.
  
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  Eggs - how would you like them done?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  post on another forum prompted this one.. wt is flip-flopping on the "no marriage for you" (voice of seinfeld soup nazi) to placate the 50% of jw women who will never marry "in this system.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/jesus-sadducees-marriage-after-resurrection/.

  however, we do know that wt also taught that marriage was for procreation.

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  I like my eggs unfertilized, thanks.
  
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  THOUGHTS ON UPGRADING TO (Free) WINDOWS 10

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  i've been using windows 7 for several years and have had no complaints.. i've tried many browsers and settled on google chrome.

  it has absolutely everything i want or need.. i kept hearing about the free upgrade to windows 10, so i went to youtube and watched endless "reviews" pro and con.. what pushed me over the (microsoft edge) was the fact i could test drive the new operating system.

  for 30 days and go back to windows 7 if i didn't like it!

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  I'm-a waitin' on Windows 13. It's the Pagan side of me coming out.
  
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  5 publishers in my father's congregation have just been put in rest homes.

  by joe134cd in

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  2. experiences

  my father was telling me the other day that 5 publishers have recently been put in rest home care.

  interesting in a cong of about 80-100 publishers.

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  Yep, so much for the 'You'll never grow old and never need a career in this system of things' fantasy. This aging is only going to increase. The Baby Boomers' parents are old and the Baby Boomers themselves are aging. My Dad went into a home almost 4 years ago and I will be 53 this year.
  

  The Silver Wave is turning into the Silver Tsunami.
  
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  What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.

  i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.

  i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.

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  Did I miss "Watchtarded"?
  
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  JW Brothers

  by Festus in

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  there is a group called jw brothers in facebook.

  somebody has posted an article that catholic church has covered up child abuse.. http://www.myfoxboston.com/news/national-content/catholic-bishops-not-obligated-to-report-clerical-sex-abuse-vatican-says/72976327.

  this is what somebody had posted as reply:.

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  Divergent, excellent post.
  
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

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  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  I am a woman but not 'trained' in philosophy nor feminism. I know what I like and what I want. I was raised in the religion but was never baptized. For what it's worth, here are my 2 cents.
  

  Misogyny is one of the main reasons I knew, as a teenage girl, I could not be a Jehovah's Witness. If you've read the Bible, then you know misogyny is a major theme in this foundational book of the various Christian religions. It is not a stretch to see the application of it in many religions, and not just Christian ones.

  As a JW, the expectation for me to live in subjugation to my husband turned my stomach and made me quite angry. It certainly wasn't what I wanted. I watched my Mother's individuality vanish under the oppressiveness of this religion. She got to a point where she couldn't even make decisions, heaping this responsibility solely on my Father's shoulders. I never wanted that. I value freedom too highly. Subjection is too costly a price for me to pay.
  

  Have you researched the origins of slavery and Patriarchy? This might be an appropriate starting point. Not all societies or belief systems use Patriarchy/slavery/misogyny but there were decisions made in the ancient past in certain parts of the world to adopt this. And not just men, but women also, had a hand in instrumenting the inception of Patriarchy. Why? One reason/theory ... to bring stability to a region's warring tribes. Marry the women from one warring tribe into the other tribe and suddenly, you're fighting your kin. I have yet to find out why the decision was to exchange women instead of men or children, but this is what I have found thus far.
  
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  The Pope Tells Trump He's Not A Christian

  by minimus in

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  this should be fun.

  building a wall is unchristian.

  i can't understand why the pope is getting involved in american politics.. poor donald..

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  LoveUni said: The Pope says Trump isn't Christian yet it was this very same Pope who said if people criticize religion they have to expect to get punched. That doesn't sound Christian to me either

  That's exactly what the Jay Dubyas would say.

  WTF is going on here?

  It is my understanding that 'turning the other cheek' is Christian, not retaliation. However, what I also know is that for every single person and every single 'Christian' religion, the term and definition of 'Christian' appears to be an ever changing and fluid one depending on circumstances. The ever shifting sands of religion/Christianity make me nauseous.