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  One short New Testament verse sums up the problem with faith.

  by nicolaou in

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  "for we are walking by faith, not by sight" 2 corinthians 5:7. that's it right there.

  don't value the evidence of your own eyes or trust what you can measure and test; no, just have faith.. the frustration is that even when this is pointed out to the devout believer they still don't see the problem.

  they still see faith as a virtue and something superior to 'sight'..

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  Faith is the fall back when people do not have the answers and do not want to do the work to find them.

  Reason, logic, and intellectual honesty must be abandoned in order to have faith.
  
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  "In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

  by nicolaou in

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  so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

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  Does Heaven have a beginning according to the Bible?

  The Bible does not mention me personally. But according to my birth records, yes, I did have a beginning.
  
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  So electricity is like the flow of water through a pipe or what? How does an electron flow on a light wave? Is it like surfing? Not to knock Swedish researchers. But that just puts me back at Square One.

  Ok, I'll give this my best shot. Others can correct me if I am wrong.
  

  Electricity is the force created when electrons, the negatively charged subatomic particles found in all atoms of the elements, move. On it's own, electricity, does now 'flow'. Electricity needs a conductor in order to move and it needs a generator if you want electricity to flow.
  

  The metal elements (eg copper) are 'conductors' as they have electrons that can freely detach from their atoms and move/zip around. In order to have electricity, you need the electrons to do this. Materials such as wood, cotton, air are all substances where their electrons 'stick' with their atoms - ie where their electrons do not freely detach. These do not make good conductors. Another way it is described is that these atoms do not freely share their electrons (these materials are insulators).
  

  Michael Faraday created a generator with coils of copper wire (the conductor) rotating between the poles of a magnet producing a steady current of electricity. A generator is simply a device that moves a magnet near a wire to create a steady flow of electrons. In simple terms, think of the magnet pushing the electrons.

  If you've ever moved paper clips around with a magnet, then you've dabbled in the basic principles behind even the most complicated electric generators.
  

  There are varying designs on Faraday's generator and the principles are still used today. Hydroelectricity created by Niagara Falls uses the force of falling water to power a turbine which turns a shaft that rotates a conductor between the shafts of a magnet causing electricity to flow.

  How an electron flows on a light wave is a slightly different topic than what is electricity. I posted the vid to demonstrate the first video of an electron and that we can actually see them, ie, they aren't invisible if we have the correct apparatus to view them. I have to run but will look into the properties of how an electron can ride a light wave.
  

  
  
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  Seriously condsidering disasscoiating

  by Ashley L. in

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  i am seriously considering disassociating myself.

  i want to do this because i no longer consider myself one of jehovah's witnesses.

  i no longer consider jehovah as my god and i am in a new religion now.

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  My advice would be to just fade from the JWs and perform a banishing ritual/ceremony for closure.
  
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  "Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:

  by DarioKehl in

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  from that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .

  i had my doubts since childhood.

  i went along with it to please people.

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  "As John observes, the release of the locusts is accompanied by much smoke, like “the smoke of a great furnace.” That is how it proved to be in 1919. The situation darkened for Christendom and for the world in general. (Compare Joel 2:30, 31.) The release of those locusts, the John class, was actually a defeat for Christendom’s clergy, who had schemed and plotted to kill the Kingdom work for good and who now rejected God’s Kingdom. Evidence of a smokelike pall started to spread over apostate Christendom as that locust band was given divine authority and began to exercise it in proclaiming powerful judgment messages. Christendom’s “sun”—her appearance of enlightenment—suffered an eclipse, and “the air” became thick with declarations of divine judgment as “the ruler of the authority of the air” of this world was shown to be Christendom’s god.

  Cofty's 'word salad' description comes to mind reading this. WTF does this even mean?
  
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  Governing Body Public Address - today!

  by diamondblue1974 in

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  any ideas what this is about?

  - apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.

  anyone heard anything about this?.

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  konceptual99 said: Oh, and Jehovah can measure the universe in the span of his hand. I guess his hand must be getting bigger.

  Now this is funny!
  
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  CO says "WE ARE NOW AT THE THRESHOLD OF THE THE GREAT TRIBULATION!"

  by nowwhat? in

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  40-50 years after saying "armegeddon is right around the corner" we are now making progress!!!.

  gotta have a sense of humor to deal with this stuff..

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  I think Sauerkraut is on to something.
  
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Electricity is the flow of moving electrons.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofp-OHIq6Wo
  
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  Why would a Swingers Club Want to Become a Religion?

  by cha ching in

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  " a nashville swingers club has undergone a conversion it now says that it is a church in order to win city approval, so that it can open next to a christian school.

  " (associated press).

  the article explains, "a church is something that cannot be defined under the u.s. constitution"..... wt lawyers explain to the court all of the time; 'you can't interfere with our internal church policies, or you will be infringing on our first amendment rights.

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  Do they get tax exempt status?
  
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  Dangerous "Pent up" feelings inside of most witnesses?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i have often wondered if there is more harm done to people who are stifled or smothered from expressing their natural conduct, feelings or actions because of it being condemned by religious ideals?.

  so if a person keeps suppressing their real personality and tries to mould themselves to the "perfect" or "ideal" version as expected from those controlling them, could they eventually "bust" so to speak?.

  for instance, witnesses condemn many forms of entertainment.

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  Xanthippe said: Sorry you've lost me Heaven?

  My apologies Xanthippe... I had to comment on the statement from your psychologist. I have always wondered about that ... all the repressive sexual rules and their effects.
  

  The remainder of my post was not related to your post. Brain is getting fried from work. ;0)