One short New Testament verse sums up the problem with faith.

by nicolaou 9 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • nicolaou
    "for we are walking by faith, not by sight" 2 Corinthians 5:7

    That's it right there. Don't value the evidence of your own eyes or trust what you can measure and test; no, just have faith.

    The frustration is that even when this is pointed out to the devout believer they still don't see the problem. They still see faith as a virtue and something superior to 'sight'.

  • DarioKehl
    Faith = Credulity
  • Phizzy
    I know a couple of people who walked by faith and not by sight, they fell over a cliff.
  • Heaven

    Faith is the fall back when people do not have the answers and do not want to do the work to find them.

    Reason, logic, and intellectual honesty must be abandoned in order to have faith.

  • eyeuse2badub

    That scripture contradicts what Jesus told his disciples---doesn't it? He told them to look for the signs (i.e. visible proof) that the end was near---right? Also, Why then is the wtbts always 'looking' for, and pointing out to others, "visible signs" of the end? Isn't it enough to "just believe" it will happen? lol

    just saying!


  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    The trouble is, growing up as a JW, there was always a mixed message. On one hand they wanted you to have faith and wait on Jehovah to clear up all the things that don't make sense. Then on the other hand, when it suited them, instead of faith being enough, they went to great lengths, employing lengthy and convoluted explanations of Bible doctrine, providing dates and supposedly faith strengthening evidence that I blindly trusted and had faith in until it all turned out to be incorrect. They told me to have faith in THEM and THEIR explanations or the evidence they provided.

    I realize that myself and many others were using the word faith to feel good about not wanting to bother looking any further.

  • eyeuse2badub


    I realize that myself and many others were using the word faith to feel good about not wanting to bother looking any further.


    just saying!


  • nicolaou

    Just found out about Professor Jerry Coyne's new book and thought I'd share the news here. Pre ordered and looking forward to this . .

  • stuckinarut2

    Great thread!

    Yes, FAITH is the cop-out for a lack of EVIDENCE or lack of FACTS...

    But, you do realise that the Believer will quote Hebrews 11:1

    "Faith is the ASSURED expectation of what is hoped for, the EVIDENT demonstration of REALITIES that are not seen"

    (new dumbed-down silver edition)

  • galaxie
    'Sight' may also be equated to having an understanding as in ' don't you see '. Those who don't wish to understand or seek education may fall back on the lazy excuse of blind faith ...very foolish!.

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