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  Thought provoking articles / videos

  by Simon in

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  i came across this site and love it, just full of interesting things to read.

  this one is particularly good about whether we are alone in the universe (as intelligent life) and what different scenarios could play out:.

  http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html.

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  Heaven

  Seriously, just click on any of their articles and boom, your day of productivity just disappeared!

  The Interwebs has a way of doing this to me.
  
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  Mother and Unborn Baby Die from blood transfusion refusal

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's a very sad story.

  their deaths were completely avoidable if she hadn't refused the blood transfusion:.

  http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/04/07/why-doctors-let-a-jehovahs-witness-and-her-unborn-baby-die/.

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  Heaven

  What a waste.

  And all for some imaginary, Patriarchal, Iron Age god who is invisible, silent, and impotent.
  
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  Why people don't believe in God

  by pressman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you want to know why i think people don't believe in god?

  well i believe people don't want to believe in god because they are scared.

  they know that if they finally do gorge the confidence to believe in him, he might discipline them for their skepticism.

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  Heaven

  Well I believe people don't want to believe in God because they are scared.

  Incorrect. Once I stopped believing my fear vanished.
  
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  scientology parody

  by unknown ex-jw in

  1. social
  2. humour

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopapex6vzs#t=187 .

  if only we had such a parody for the watchtower.

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  Heaven

  Evidently, I am unworthy. Gettin' this message when I try to view:

  "The uploader has not made this video available in your country."
  
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  Happy Easter!

  by J-DUBBED in

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  2. friends

  yes a big happy easter to all the ex j-dubs........and to all those that want to be ex j-dubs.

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  Heaven

  I now refer to this day as ... Chocolate Bunny Day.

  So Happy Chocolate Bunny Day to y'all!

  
  
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  Bible Group in Boston

  by Agape.Love in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy easter!

  my husband and i who are former jws are starting a new bible discussion group on sundays @1pm, south of boston.

  we will begin the group on sunday may 3rd.

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  Agape.Love said: I've come to learn that Jesus Christ IS the "Word of God".

  Without the Bible, can you please explain how you have been able to come to this conclusion?
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  The Science Is In: God Is The Answer...

  by OUTLAW in

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  the science is in: god is the answer.

  research shows kids raised with spirituality are happier and healthier in the vulnerable teen years.

  why arent we all signing up?.

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  Heaven

  I totally agree with age of consent for baptism.

  My Mom would not allow us kids to make any baptismal decisions until we were adults. She felt Jesus' example was the best way. But we all know Watchtower has other ideas.

  What is interesting about my family is that none of us kids ever got baptized into any religion. Fundamentalism doesn't work for kids. We all saw the BS and said no thanks. Why don't we all sign up? Because the religious claims are not backed up by reality. For me, it wasa combination of the issue of theodicy and disagreeing with Watchtower interpretation of scripture and their doctrines.

  As children, we are all told an interpretation of what god is. As we get older, we formulate our own ideas based on what we are told versus what Science has discovered and what reality shows us. When the god stories don't match the facts, when hypocrisy is evident, we move away from it.
  

  As for the OP, I would not leap to such a huge conclusion that 'god is the answer'. We all know what an oppressive god does to people ala the Watchtower. I suspect the stats for children raised in a fundamentalist/extremist/oppressive religion would not support 'happier and healthier' children. I, for one, put plans together as a teenager to get away from my parents religion.

  Spirituality is a very personal thing. Many connect it with a belief in 'god'. I do not. I have experienced the feeling of 'grace' outside of any religious type activity or thought. Many of my experiences in nature have given me this feeling.
  

  I think if a child is raised in a loving, positive, uplifting, supportive environment where compassion for others is taught, you will have happy, healthy children. No one needs 'god' for this.
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  Some Questions About Jesus

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why didn't jesus ever write anything?

  why are there no letters to jesus?

  no painting of jesus from that time?

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  Why didn't Jesus write anything?

  1) He was unable to.

  2) He did not care to.

  3) He did not exist.

  There were a lot of messiahs in existence during that time. If Jesus did exist, I suspect most people thought he was a crack pot.
  
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  What does God really convey through Jesus?

  by economy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bible shows that jesus was passionate about people receiving `life in all its fullness' in the here and now, he loved fiercely, challenged corruption and hypocrisy of religious authority, feasted with the marginalized, chastised the holier-than-thou types, healed the sick, fed the hungry, restored broken lives, taught through stories and offered a drastically new kingdom where the last would be first and those that served would be known as greatest..... so good a personality, and a supreme ideal indeed to be imitated..

  yet what was his finality?

  rejection by people (and even by his own disciples who witnessed all supernatural miraclesincluding his resurrecting the dead) and a cruel and torturous death..

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  Heaven

  Jesus was purported to be a miracle worker yet was incapable of eradicating slavery.
  
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  Every Governing Body Decision is from Jehovah

  by B4Right in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how do you convince a jw that every decision that comes from the governing body is not from god?.

  my mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " jehovah knows what we need".. for you who now know ttat what did it take for you?.

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  Heaven

  About 30 years ago, while visiting my parents, I asked both of them at the same time if God was directing the Watchtower?

  At exactly the same time my Dad says "No." and my Mom says "Yes".

  'You shoulda seen the 'holy shite' look pass between them.

  I'm like 'uh huh'.
  

  It actually doesn't matter what the answer is to that question.

  If it is "Yes" than either Jeehoopla is f'ing with the Watchtower by constantly telling them wrong stuff or they are dumb asses and not 'getting' it right. Why subject oneself to this wackiness? As a JW you're on the front lines and you're going to have to defend this BS when you are challenged. How can you call this The Truth when it's wrong and constantly changing?
  

  If it is "No", then why follow them? - they are just another religion making up crap as they go along. Just like all religion has done since it's inception