TUESDAY My hair was sitting on my shoulder. He swept it off so it lay on my back. I didn't know what happened cos, you know,......your hair has no feeling..its dead.
iknowall558
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Crazy JW chaperon Stories
by superman inthe jw's must not trust their members or at least don't have too much faith in them when it comes to being alone around member of the opposite sex.
i can remember one time in particular from when i was a teenager that still makes me laugh today.. when i was younger i used to go out in service on a regular basis during the week when i had summer break.
one time when i met for service there were only two other people that showed up.
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Ninja We brought the kids along for chaperoning purposes......both immaculate conceptions... in 17yrs, we've never had a moment to ourselves!
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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall
by Hobo Ken inthis is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.
he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.
this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.
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SLIMBOYFAT My mum and myself along with my sister got baptized on the same day 24yrs ago. That's how long he's known us. This elder sat and told us that he loved the both of us and yet he didn't mind, along with the other elders publicly humiliating us from the platform by means of talks, demonstrations and marking. I was gutted to think that everything we had given to them by way of time, friendship, and hospitality had all been forgotten and wiped out in minutes by means of the words flowing from their mouths on the platform. They demonized my husband and I. Who we were, and still are as people, had been wiped away and replaced with a different persona. They fed this to our many friends and family members, all sitting listening in the audience. I was there one of the nights when my brother in law gave a demonstration that mirrored word for word my conversation with him the day before in my kitchen. I was anxious and worried about what I saw in the org. and how the Bible contradicted some of their teachings and he encouraged me to talk about it so that he could try to help me. I was mortified when he humiliated me like that. He put my conversation on display and then had the cheek to tell me that the demonstration wasn't directed at me. Our reputation was in tatters because they chose to let people know (without mentioning our names of course) that we were apostate. If you listened to the previous podcasts of the 'shepherding visits' you will see the pressure put on myself to admit that i was reading and passing on 'apostate' literature. It was very uncomfortable for me to go through that and it's very uncomfortable to listen to. We were still officially JWs and I still had a 'respect' for them as people as well as the position they held as elders. I didn't want to lie.
All they were concerned about was getting answers to their questions so as to know how to proceed to sweep the filth out of their congregation. They weren't concerned about us, and how difficult and distressing it was to us and our children. They weren't interested. I realised then that the 'love' they claim to have is absolutely conditional, and how easily they can put you to the side. There were many, many tears on my part......and yet I know there would have been none on theirs.
The visit to my mum just reinforced all of the above. They didn't pay her any particular attention before. She was constantly missing from meetings due to ill health. The brother that used to phone her, as was mentioned, couldn't reach her sometimes because she was too ill to get out of bed. It's not that she didn't want to talk to anyone. But all of a sudden she was first on the list for a 'visit'. They were fulfilling their duty..........not to show love and concern, but to make sure she was following their rules. That's why she was so upset and why I was livid. My mum sent in a DA letter very soon after this visit , so his job of 'encouraging' her backfired.
JUDGERUTHERFRAUD Thanks for the support and encouragement.. I agree we were too nice and if I had the chance to do it again I would be more forthright and honest about what I really thought of them and their organization. My family was put through hell because of the way the elders dealt with us. It's still ongoing and I've had to make arrangements to place my 7yr old in another school so that he is not upset by the shunning of his mum and dad anymore by his schoolfriends and their mums and dads. But in saying that, I would need to be held back from confronting any of them now, as I couldn't be held responsible for my actions, and I would probably get arrested. I think they know this about me and I think they're a bit 'scared' of me because of that. They know I'm not afraid to speak my mind. I worry about my depth of bitterness at times, and although I try not to let it affect me, it does. I hate them just for that alone.
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Crazy JW chaperon Stories
by superman inthe jw's must not trust their members or at least don't have too much faith in them when it comes to being alone around member of the opposite sex.
i can remember one time in particular from when i was a teenager that still makes me laugh today.. when i was younger i used to go out in service on a regular basis during the week when i had summer break.
one time when i met for service there were only two other people that showed up.
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OMG When I was dating I was put through such a terrible time. I had to end up going to the doctor for depression and had lost a stone in weight. My now hubby's parents, and his other parent, his brother paul, hounded the life out of us 24/7. They kept us apart (or so they thought for 3yrs). He wasn't allowed to drive me anywhere in the car unless one of them was with us, we had to be chaperoned in the ministry, he wasn't allowed to show any affection to me in their company, and if we sat in the bedroom, which was off the living room, the door was wide open and we would sit there watching the rest of his family watching TV. His dad , an elder, constantly told me how much of a danger I was to his son, because as I hadn't been brought up in the truth then it would be harder for me to resist having sex. He told me that women NEEDED to have sex, whereas men just do it for pleasure. He asked me if I 'understood' what he meant by that. He made me answer him. Basically I was shop soiled and not good enough for him. He had many conversations like this with me between doors in the ministry. So obviously in his eyes I was just a slut. His mum and dad both put people in place to follow us in ministry to spy on us. As his dad was an elder, and would air his 'concerns' at elders meetings, and it was decided that i wouldn't be allowed to put in aux pio form, which I had been doing for months, as we were the talk of much gossip (mainly due to his parents and brother) and so wasn't really in the position of "good example to the congregation. He told me that his sons problems with nose bleeds was to do with me and the "pressure" he was under in his' friendship' with me. He asked me repeatedly to leave him alone. Leave him alone? They made me feel like some kind of pervert. Other elders got their chance to throw in their sarcastic comments to us both no matter the occasion.......like at someones wedding.......the attention was on me and matt as this idiot elder decided yet again to take a pop at us and our relationship. I'd had enough and just broke down. Matt was mad and went and reported him shouting the odds to his dad to do something about it. It caused a scene. This went on for months and months. I was a nervous wreck.
One night in his house, we were doing the family wt study and matt reached over and pulled my hair over my shoulder. His mum and dad went ballistic. I didn't know what had happened but his mum was in tears and his dad was shouting. Matt was so upset and frustrated he ran out the house and left me there with all of them for 2hours. They were yelling....."If you're doing that in front of us , what are you doing when we're not there?" I was 22 at the time. Was forced out of my mums house and had been living on my own. All the elders ganged up on me in support of his dad. His brother hadn't anything good to say about me. I felt so alone and worthless. Even when we got engaged, his brother, came and told him that he didn't know how he could do it , (marry me that is) because if it was him he would find it hard seeing me walking down the aisle knowing that I had been with someone else. I hadn't had a boyfriend for 6years. I wasnt the village prostitute but was made to feel like that.
Anyhow, his super spiritual elder brother, when he started dating........DIFFERENT F#*#ING STORY. He was the 'good' son. The trustworthy one. He never put a foot wrong. Yeah, he could run his girlfriend home anytime......didnt matter that he drove the car at 11pm and the journey was half an hour, but didn't get back till 1:30am...his mum and dad knew that he was only 'talking'. Matt challenged them on this and his dad said. "You leave that boy alone, He's a good boy!" He could sit in the family's company after sunday dinner and have his hand rubbing up and down his g/f thigh and she would be doing the same to him. Then he would get his index finger and run it round her lips and in her mouth while she recipricated........slabbers and all. We were married at this point and still wouldn't be affectionate with each other in front of his mum and dad. All this was in full view of me and matt and his mum and dad. I remember it distinctly cos it was Christmas time and the 'Sound of Music' was on TV . (the sound of heavy petting was on the sofa). It makes me wonder..........(If they were doing that in front of us, what were they doing when we weren't there?") hmmm............ His brother ended up going to MTS in Surrey, England and had to leave the girlfriend for a while. We all travelled down to see his graduation and went to the house of the bro./sis he had been staying with. Him and his g/f obviously missed each other and duly started demonstrating this in front of his shocked hosts. The sis. came in and told his mum that she wasn't at all pleased. When his mum got a hold of him to tell him off she came back and told matt that ....."yeah, I noticed that Paul had an erection" . Nothing more was said.
Sorry for the long post, but I'm so bitter about it. I dislike his brother immensely. He is so smug , self righteous, arrogant and pious. Even now he's the congregaton peacock, always has been.........without the 'pea'. I better stop now before I get carried away and say what I really think. I'm not usually like this.
Happy Days...!
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I was just grabbing my screaming defiant 7yr old to trying to get him to bed but he was refusing to even come in to his room . Told him to come and see the funny pictures and he reluctantly popped his head round the door , still crying and objecting to his bed time. He came in enough for me to get him in a rugby tackle and throw him down on the bed............many thanks. Lol.
(only kidding bout the rugby tackle of course)
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Thanks mark........we should get everybody from our KH and get a group photo taken....if we can fit them all in that is.
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Truly are children of the devil.........loving the red eyes !
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Heh heh x x
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How Old are You ?
by flipper ini know- you aren't used to seeing me ask a simple question like this.
so- i'll start .
i am 49 years old, will be 50 in october .
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Im 21 with 21years experience. Happy Birthday Mrs Jones.
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UK investigation report into JW procedures
by dozy init is an open secret amongst elders in the uk that the charities commission has been investigating jw procedures with regard to child protection , particularly following the porter case (an elder who abused children in millhill , the host congregation for the london bethel.).
copies of the report are available below.
it appears that the wts may have to produce crb (criminal records bureau) checks for all elders , something that many brothers have requested for some time , though the wts are dragging their feet (as usual) on this.. http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/library/investigations/pdfs/lonmill.pdf.
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What used to make my blood boil was the fact that if there were any abusers in the hall , then only the elders were privvy to that information. No-one else got to know about it , hence they could actively look after their children and families while the rest of us were oblivious.
