Posts by wantingtruth

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Introducing myself

by Jeremy430 in

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i'm mostly here to meet new like minded friends.

growing up in the religion has jaded my perspective.

most of my believes the wts is bs, but there is that part in the back of my mind that fears they have the truth.

I remember going to assemblies and we were warned about "Apostate" flyers and stuff. That never sat well with me, I mean if truth is truth...then people should be able to spot a lie from the truth. considering that they tell you how to argue every point with every other religion which should be more than enough training to build up your critical thinking skills...yet Apostate flyers are a threat to truth? How can it be if they have the truth?

Hello friend ,

here is what an "apostate" is seeing regarding the 1914 and kigdom in Heaven

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Introducing myself

by Jeremy430 in

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friends

i'm mostly here to meet new like minded friends.

growing up in the religion has jaded my perspective.

most of my believes the wts is bs, but there is that part in the back of my mind that fears they have the truth.

wantingtruth

Hey Jeremy , you are welcome !

try to understand this perspective

wantingtruth

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new here

by seenitall in

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new here, but have followed this site from the very start.

as my name states, i have seen it all.

former elder, bethelite, po, ms, 4th gen and still active as pub.

wantingtruth

WELCOME seenitall !

you may check this also

wantingtruth

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Is there an Anti-Type To King Nebuchadnezzer?

by wannabe in

is there an anti-type to king nebuchdnezzer?.

nebuchadnezzer was the ruler of ancient babylon, who tried, to force, on pain of death, to get the whole known world during his time period to worship an image he had set up.

he ruled the whole known world of his time period; and his desire was to get all mankind to worship an image he had set up.

wantingtruth

Do you believe that , wannabe ?

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Is There (Was There Ever) an Anglo American Dual World Power?

by BluesBrother in

if you live in the u s a or the united kingdom, this is how the wt society views your government, your nation :-.

yes, as an ugly, evil terrifying beast !

this is based on the book of revelation chapter 13 , quoted as follows in the revelation climax book.

wantingtruth

The likening of Daniels' beasts with political governments is human interpretation and human teaching

a special messenger was sent to /exactly to/ Daniel , the receiver of the visions , telling him what it follows :

14. "Now I have come to give you an understanding of what will happen

-- to your people

-- in the latter days,

..... for the vision pertains to the days yet future."

so , the "beasts" have their fulfillment within God's people living during the latter days !

the individuals who promote human teachings , who tried and succeeded to get control over the faithful ones (sheep) , from God's point of view, are "beasts"

the present WT&BTS is a beast , being leaded by beastlike persons !

those real Christians in the organisation , are in fact not beasts , but opressed sheep

they have to be made free !

to understand deeper , it requires deeper study .

wantingtruth

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A New Slant On The Appointed Times Of The Nations!

by wannabe in

a new slant on the appointed times of the nations!.

if you look at genesis 3:15 where jehovah told satan: "i shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed, he will bruise you in the head, and you will bruise him in the heel.

" {matthew 24:9 nlt}.

wantingtruth

Hello wannabe !

you should observe that the "The Appointed Times Of The Nations" are part of a prophecy regarding the "latter days"

and also , it had to happen within "God's people'

both the members of the "New" Jerusalem and "the Nations" are within "God's people"

take a look at the chronology of the latter days

robson, welcome !

you said I will do my own research

-- you may also check here

greetings to all

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1914 again

by inbetween in

there are a lot of thread s and arguments around the 587/607 issue, it can be a bit confusing, and for those of us still in, like me, to help others, it would not be a topic i would choose first.

it was something i found out, after i awakened, before i simply brushed it aside, as something like worldly chronology against biblical chronology.

imho to be ready for this issue, you have to be awake first, unless you are a real history buff... anyway, there may be another take on this matter:.

wantingtruth

anyway, back to 1914: Will be interesting , if it still will be highlighted that much, when 100 year anniversary comes, or will it be replaced ? maybe great tribulation already started invisibly ? or something like that ? Time will tell....its only 4 more years to go...

the "great tribulation" is not over the WT society, nor over its leaders

while "the world" caused and still causes always tribulations over the ( true) Christians , the (biblical) Great Tribulation is a special tribulation over "the people of saints" , only they are "feeling" it ; and it is caused by the "weeds" or the Man of Lawlessness during the time he is ruling in the Temple as god !

so, while the "wheat" is together with the "weeds" , only the wheat is under the tribulation , and the weeds are the oppressors !

try to understand this

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1914 again

by inbetween in

there are a lot of thread s and arguments around the 587/607 issue, it can be a bit confusing, and for those of us still in, like me, to help others, it would not be a topic i would choose first.

it was something i found out, after i awakened, before i simply brushed it aside, as something like worldly chronology against biblical chronology.

imho to be ready for this issue, you have to be awake first, unless you are a real history buff... anyway, there may be another take on this matter:.

wantingtruth

inbetween,

try to understand what Jesus taught

and then you will see the futility of 587/607 discussions

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1914 Doctrine is FALSE -- Questions for JW's

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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is there any jehovah's witness who can answer these questions about 1914?.

can you demonstrate, using the holy scriptures, that the messianic kingdom was established in 1914, that jesus got the full legal right to become king that year, and that jesus returned invisibly in 1914, and that the "last days" began that year?.

1:) no encyclopedia, no history book, and no archaeology book that i have ever seen have ever said that nebuchadnezzar destroyed jerusalem and the temple in the year 607 bce.

wantingtruth

A witness will try to use Rev 12 to prove that immediately after Satan has lost the battle in Heavens , he was hurled down on earth and caused the WW1 ... and the outbreak of the ww1 is the proof !

BUT Rev 12 cannot be used that way , because it is against the teaching of Christ !

wantingtruth

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How Long Has The Christ Been Invisibly Present?

by wannabe in

how long has the christ been invisibly present?.

i don't know as i have covered this one before or not, but can't we say that jesus has been invisibly present ever since his ascension in the first century?

didn't he indicate that he was in this following scripture?.

wantingtruth

Hello wannabe ,

it seems we agree in many things !

My lack of english prevents me to express many things I would to.

Blessings !