Hugs to both of you. I know she'll pull through with you by her side. Best wishes all my positive thoughts her way and yours.
Posts by VIII
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106Flying to Orlando tomorrow, my daughter is in the hospital
by coffee_black inmy daughter is in the hospital with pneumonia, and possibly a blood clot in her lung.
they'll be testing through the night...apparently, her heart is enlarged as well.
she is scared... and if her jw father catches wind of it, he will be there trying to intefere with her treatment... he lives close by to her, so i'll be flying down in the morning....to head him off at the pass.
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Do JW's read other books?
by InterestedOne inwhen i ask my jw friend if she has read various classic books, she says, "i don't like to read.
" however, she of course reads all the wt stuff.
i don't know too many jw's, but the ones i have seen in the meetings seem mostly uneducated and, even when speaking from the platform, seem almost illiterate - that is, unable to pronounce certain words even in the wt literature.
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Not that I know of. Which, as pointed out, keeps them from learning about other stuff.
I have tried to get my mom to read other books; she won't. Says she doesn't have time.
I loved to read as a kid and would go to the library on my bike and get Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys, and every other series of books I could. I would check them out and hide them under my bed. I cleaned my room and mom never looked so I was safe. I would read at night by flashlight.
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Are mentally ill people possessed by demons? Watchtower view.
by ThomasCovenant inwatchtower 15th march 1953 page 191.. ''there is no reason to think that they [demons] cannot possess persons today.. this is not to say that all those mentally sick are so possessed, for they are not.. mentally sick persons, however, in their weakened state, may present more vulnerable targets for their assaults and invasions.. some show evidence of demon possession, whereas others show evidences of merely mental sickness or nervous breakdown.
'' (emphasis mine).
i for one would not want to work with people with mental illness or depression just in case they were possessed by some of those pesky spirits.. .
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Unbelieveable.
The first WT quote Blondie put up is from 2003!!!
How can someone read this and not burst into laughter during the Sunday meeting? (then get mad, especially if you or a family member are affected?)
VIII going to put my Turkey in the oven hoping the demons get baked
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Bristol Palin and her typical black & white right-wing / religious mindset
by Simon inso, bristol palin is through to the final on dancing with the stars even though it's obvious to everyone with half a brain that she doesn't deserve to be based on her dancing.
she's there simply because the obsessive palin fundies are voting for her.. i thought it was interesting listening to her describe people who think she shouldn't be there as "the haters".. what black and white thinking and typical of the religious / right-wing mentality.
people can't have an opinion that is based on reality and see that better dancers were voted off while she stayed way past her skill level warranted.
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So, who out of all you haters is going to shoot their TV first tonight?
I'm trying to figure out how "typical black & white right-wing / religious mindset" gets applied to Bristol, Teen Activist, who is on a dancing show.
BTW, I was hoping for a Jennifer / Brandy dance off. I think Maks sank it for Brandy. He is an arrogant dickhead. As for weight-gain, he's put on a few pounds since season one. Hitting the caviar a little too hard.
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Flying to Orlando tomorrow, my daughter is in the hospital
by coffee_black inmy daughter is in the hospital with pneumonia, and possibly a blood clot in her lung.
they'll be testing through the night...apparently, her heart is enlarged as well.
she is scared... and if her jw father catches wind of it, he will be there trying to intefere with her treatment... he lives close by to her, so i'll be flying down in the morning....to head him off at the pass.
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I wish you a safe journey and I hope your beautiful daughter makes a full recovery. Your grandson is wonderful. Hugs!
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As Far as JW's and Thanksgiving go...
by OnTheWayOut init's one of the most confusing holidays to jw's.
it doesn't specify who to give thanks to, it's a u.s. holiday that is semi-patriotic and semi-religious but not necessarily either one.. i suppose jw's should go out of their way to avoid giving thanks this thursday so jehovah doesn't get pissed at them for being so slightly normal worldly and maybe accidentally smite them if armageddon starts this thursday..
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Every JW I know is having turkey with all the trimmings. They are all getting together with family and friends (JWs of course) and doing *everything* except putting Thanksgiving decorations out. *That* would be a no-no.
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Toxic Grocery Bags
by VIII inyou thought going "green" at the grocery store was going to be easy, right?
not with that lead filled reuseable grocery bag made in china.
yeah, you knew it was going to happen sooner or later.
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You thought going "Green" at the grocery store was going to be easy, right?
Not with that lead filled reuseable grocery bag made in China.
Yeah, you knew it was going to happen sooner or later. If it's not crap they put in the milk they feed their own people, it's crap they sell us. Like childrens jewelry and grocery bags.
Now we find out that the bags we thought would save the environment from plastic will poison it from lead. The stuff the US banned in the 70's because it caused learning disabilities in kids and infertility in adults.
Read it and weep. Oh, and go back to paper bags.
I have 2 or 3 of these from every store I shop at. Damn.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101119/ap_on_bi_ge/us_lead_in_bags
Shoppers shrug off fears about toxic reusable bags
By BEN DOBBIN, Associated Press Ben Dobbin, Associated Press Fri Nov 19, 6:08 am ET
ROCHESTER, N.Y. – So you care about the environment, and you take a reusable shopping bag with you to the grocery store to avoid polluting the planet with countless plastic sacks. Now you find out your bag is made with potentially harmful lead. What's an environmentalist to do?
If you're like Elnora Cooper, nothing.
"I'm not eating the bag ... and I'm not going to get rid of it," Cooper, 68, said with a chuckle after walking out of a Wegmans Food Markets store in Rochester this week with a reusable bag under her arm.
The latest in a long line of ominous warnings about potentially dangerous products concerns synthetic but reusable bags that may contain traces of lead. The stir in supermarkets and Congress is less about whether the toxin might rub off on food and more about whether they could accumulate in landfills and create an environmental hazard.
But since the whole point of the bags is that they're to be kept, not tossed out, and because the concentration of lead in them is so low, some shoppers are convinced there's little risk of an imminent toxic catastrophe.
"I switched to reusable bags six or seven years ago to keep plastic out of landfills," said Cooper, a retired nurse. "I'll keep using the one with the lead, truthfully, before I start using plastic again."
The Rochester-based Wegmans chain of 77 stores in several Eastern states halted sales of two styles of reusable bags in September after tests by a local environmental group found they contained potentially unsafe levels of lead. Wegmans said there's no evidence the 750,000 bags it sold pose a health threat.
"The eventual disposal of the bags is the only issue, from an environmental perspective," said spokeswoman Jo Natale, urging customers to return the bags for replacement when they're no longer useful.
The company, which has sold an estimated 4.5 million reusable bags at its stores in five states, has not decided yet how it will dispose of returned bags.
Lead can cause learning disabilities in children and fertility problems in adults if ingested.
A recent investigation by The Tampa Tribune found excessive amounts of lead in reusable bags bought at Winn-Dixie and other major retailers. The lead appears to be in a form that's not easily extracted or "leached" out.
But over time in a landfill, laboratory experts told the newspaper, the bags break down and paint can flake off. Lead was used in the paint to add color, opaqueness and durability; it has been banned in wall paint in the U.S. since the late 1970s.
Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, on Sunday called on the Food and Drug Administration to open an investigation into the bags.
"When our families go to the grocery store looking for safe and healthy foods to feed their kids, the last thing they should have to worry about are toxic bags," he said.
The next day, Long Island chain King Kullen and Jacksonville, Fla.-based Winn-Dixie said they were pulling some brands of reusable bags. Winn-Dixie and Tampa-based Publix are asking suppliers to find ways to make reusable grocery bags with less lead.
Reusable bags, mostly made in China, account for about 10 percent to 15 percent of the U.S. market of grocery bags. Wegmans' Chinese-made "green pea" and "holiday 2009" bags had lead levels seven to eight times higher than allowed under New York state packaging regulations.
But after they were removed, tests for "leachable lead levels" came back at less than 0.1 parts per million, said Kathleen O'Donnell, Wegmans' chief food scientist.
"That level is classified as a non-hazardous waste and could go into any landfill," she said.
Dr. John Rosen, a lead poisoning specialist at the Children's Hospital at Montefiore in New York City, said any source of lead exposure, no matter how small, should be eliminated if possible.
"I haven't seen any numbers on the lead concentration in shopping bags, but for my own grandchildren's safety, I'd say to my daughters, 'Don't use them,'" Rosen said.
The bags join other pilloried consumer goods that have raised eyebrows recently, such as children's jewelry and Shrek-themed novelty glasses that contained cadmium.
To Beth Lavigne, the bag brouhaha sounds more like "a blip."
"If there's a problem, they'll get it fixed. ... It won't be an issue anymore," said Lavigne, 61, a college administrator who owns a dozen reusable bags. "Reusables are a good idea. But who knows what's in the plastic bags?"
Mary Siegrist, an 81-year-old former teacher, said as she queued up at a Wegmans deli counter that she was all for studying the issue.
"In other countries, things have to be proven to be safe before being put into circulation," she said. "Here, we put it into circulation and then find out later it's unsafe."
Anyone concerned about the possibility of lead in their shopping bags can rest easy if they use cotton canvas bags rather than the more colorful synthetic type, said Russ Haven of the New York Public Interest Research Group in Albany.
"At this point," he said, "the canvas bags have a clean bill of health."
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VIII
Your daughter/wife will be getting a full body "pat down" in full view of every other male within airport security view. Yes, many will get a thrill and there will be some men doing it on women, I can bet that will happen.
Yes, it is different than going to the doctor. Yes, it is different than having a pap smear. Having a doctor, in an intimate setting, who you trust, is different. Anyone who says it's not, had it done on YouTube.
A pat down is an invasion of my privacy. The police do them to people they have pulled in when a crime was thought to be committed.
So, as suggested, I will not be flying. I have no need to fly across country any time soon, so, I will drive. I am sick and tired of people rolling over like dogs when their rights are taken away.
Yes, we need to be safe, however, a feel up/pat down is not going to find a bomb that some Muslim extremist has shoved up his ass. Nor will it find a bomb that a Muslim extremist has between her extra-large boobs or in her vagina.
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Is it free?
You gotta buy the ticket, parking, wait in line, etc. Gets expensive. Unless you purchase 30 days advance and get Southwest.
Might as well go to the doctor, pay your $25.00 copay, tell him/her you have a problem and ask for a probe. Cheaper. Cleaner. More secure. And, if you're careful, you can tape it.
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No.
My doctor, who is trained to touch my junk, does it in the privacy of her office. Without a bunch of goons standing there watching.
And, she washes her hands and puts on fresh gloves after each patient.
Do the TSA DimRods put on fresh gloves after every pat-down? Yeah, I thought not.
The last thing I want is Wanda the Destroyer feeling me up because Janet Napolitano thinks it's a good idea. When they start feeling up every Muslim woman, perhaps.
Until then--I'm driving.
The more freedoms we give up, the less and less we have. Let them get bomb sniffing dogs for those body cavity bombs the scanners won't see. Neither will a pat down. You think Abdul the bomber won't shove a bomb up his butt?