Posts by VIII

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Being honest with yourself, could you have reasonably adjusted your attitude and continued on as a JW?

by miseryloveselders in

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i ask this question in harmony with deedub's swan song thread which i linked below.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/205902/1/time-to-say-good-bye.

to some degree, i think i understand where she's coming from.

just speaking from my own experiences since stepping into the world of anonymous apostacy, i went through a few different phases of personal outlooks.

VIII

Being raised in this religion, I know how imperfect people can treat one another all the while having a phony smile and declaring their love for Jehovah. But just because we've experienced wrong from the likes of those people, does that mean we give into to them and take all our marbles and go home? Are we possibly being childish or unreasonable by judging the entire organization based off of the actions of a few? There's more I didn't mention such as blood, and shunning...

They are phony. They have done us wrong.

We are not childish or unreasonable by judging the entire b0rg.

Because it's a C-U-L-T.

I'm dealing with a sister who is dying--she'll be dead within months. She's a DFd JW. She's an avowed Atheist. Loudly Atheist. Our mom asked me to pray to Jehovah that he and his angels watch over her. Huh? She's DFd and an Atheist. Mom knows this. Sis has not been reticent about her views.

Mom also said she told her congregation (different than the one that DFd sis) and they all are praying for her also. WTF?! I asked my mom what would happen if sis and/or I walked in that congregation tomorrow?

Uh, well....

Yeah, I know, they would SHUN us. Period. No question. And, if they knew they were being asked to pray for a DFd person, they wouldn't, would they? No, she admitted, they wouldn't.

She also said if my sis needed a blood transfusion she shouldn't get one, however, since she was DFd it didn't matter, so, she could.

I am so sick of the JWs and how they have fucked up my family. Every aspect and corner of my family life has been torched by them. Every corner. And yes, I mean torched, like by an extreme fire.

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Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

by lifelong humanist in

in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

VIII

As an added note to this:

My sister is dying--she will be going into a hospice soon. She is an affirmed atheist (DFd JW). Suddenly, after being told people are praying for her, JWs and Christians in general, she is saying "thank you" and saying maybe there is a God.

That is how critical thinking works. It goes out the window when emotions and other things happen.

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Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

by lifelong humanist in

in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

VIII

Even with critical thinking etc., people would still get caught up in cults and other groups like that. As PSac noted, critical thinking only gets you so far. There are emotions, psychology, past experiences, and on and on that influence human behavior.

Why are there educated JWs and Scientologists?

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Can't call him father, so "This is my [dad, daddy, daddyo, papa, pops, pappy, sire, beginner, don, begetter, male parent]

by FatFreek 2005 in

dear question from readers .

i realize that watchtower is clear in avoiding fancy titles when it comes to people.

jesus said, "do not call anyone your father on earth".

VIII

If the first name is good enough for The Heavenly Big Guy, why not for the earthly spawner?

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What Are You Passionate About?

by minimus in

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what's your passion?.

some people are very intense when it comes to politics, religion, jws, sex, love, the arts, music and almost anything that could get them revved up..

VIII

Meat.

Cheese.

Wine.

Fast cars.

I could go on.

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seperating anger for WT from my mom

by dogisgod in

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i posted this earlier under the bitterness post.

how do i seperate the anger i have being raised in the borg from my mother who forced it down my throat even after i left.

she justwouldn't leave it alone.

VIII

I'm so sorry for what you went through. As meangirl noted above, the JWs do seem to attract the crazies. Believe me, I understand that. And the anger you feel for your mom.

My sister holds an extreme amount of anger towards our mother for making us go to meetings, out in FS, etc. There is much more, but, suffice it to say that she will never, ever forgive our mother for being a JW and rubs it in her face any chance she gets. It has eaten her alive. My sister that is. Literally. She is dying now with cancer and can't remember why she is so mad at our mom. It is heart breaking.

I haven't forgiven our Mom either. However, I try not to let it eat at me.

Then again, I guess if I were over it I wouldn't be on this board. It is very helpful to read stories similar to mine. Hopefully time will have the desired result. Good luck on your legal issues.

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As a witness, what view of the world did you have? Heres my story

by stillstuckcruz in

so heres my story:.

i just turned 20 years old.

like many i was raised as a jw.

VIII

Hello and Welcome to the forum!!

I like Mr. Falcon's analogy of North Korea: The JWs are like the North Koreans. Kept cold, hungry and not given any outside information. They are told that the outside world is evil and bad. There is just no good way to look at it. Stepford Wives. Robots.

When you see that smiling lady at work, look around you more as you go about your day. You'll see lots more smiling faces. They don't want to harm you. They aren't evil. They just want to live their lives. Like most average Joes out there.

As noted above--try to get an education. Once you have that no JW can ever take it away.

Good luck.

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Has anyone knocked on your door recently?

by dysfunction in

i am a housewife, and no one has knocked on my door to spread the "truth",not even on the weekends.

question, has anyone experienced this... or has the preaching work slowed down?

or are the witnesses less active, zealous?.

VIII

Just the girl scouts and a kid offering to shovel my driveway.

I purchased some cookies and let the young man shovel. Viva le free market!!

(No JWs in about 2.5 years)

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University student's JW based honors thesis research. PLEASE HELP!

by honorsthesis in

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/defectedmembers_honorsthesis.

hello community,.

my name is brett w., and i am senior undergraduate student at the university of florida.

VIII

When did the JWs endorse joining political groups? Oh, yeah, they didn't.

Why would a Baptized JW (admitted by him, Brett Wager) be a part of the University of Florida College Republicans? As the Treasurer no less?

Link:

http://www.ufgop.com/?page_id=14

That alone would get one DFd. No Neutrality there.

So, something is suspicious.

Personally, I think it is great if a JW gets an education. More brains to them. I, unlike BOTR, didn't go to an elite school and paid for it myself. Education cannot be underrated. Going to college gave me the opportunity to excape the b0rg.

Brett either wants to get kicked out or is not a JW (or is a troll). Just my opinion. I am entitled to that, am I not?

Can your IP address give data you might not want out? I am not an IT wiz, so, that is a guess.

Here is a Blog from a JW page, they are suspicious of him being an Apostate!!! He apparently sent the same Poll to a JW FB page, asking for their *help*. JWs trust is hard to gain, as it is here:

http://stuffofinteresttojws.blogspot.com/2011/01/fwd-did-everyone-get-e-mail-like-this.html

From: anne P

Date: January 31, 2011 3:40:47 PM CST

To: JW/FB <[email protected]>

Subject: Did everyone get an e-mail like this??

Just wondering what your thoughts might be on this e-mail I received and if this was sent to everyone on your FB page:

Brett Wager 01 February at 07:14 Report

Hello Anne,

My name is Brett Wager, and I am a fellow Jehovah's Witness. I am also a senior undergraduate student at the University of Florida and I am conducting a research study. The purpose of my research is to identify the political personality of Jehovah's Witnesses. I received your name and information from the JW Facebook page. You are eligible to participate in this survey strictly because of your known membership with Jehovah's Witnesses.

You will be asked to participate in a survey that will ask politically themed questions. The survey should take no longer than 10 minutes of your time and all responses will be kept confidential to the extent provided by law.

There are no anticipated risks, compensation or other direct benefits to you as a participant in this interview, except your own ability to increase society's knowledge of Jehovah's Witnesses. Your participation is entirely voluntary.

Help me out, please?

3 comments:

Anonymous said...: Is he really one of Jehovah's integrity keepers? Would he really be found in this position of asking such a question KNOWING our politics are theocratic only, not of this world? I would remain silent like the Christ when he was questioned about his views.; February 1, 2011 2:36 PM

Anonymous said...: I have had a brief exchange of comments with this person and believe he is an apostate . He knows something of the societies meeting arrangements. Profile on facebook, is a fan of politics,is inspired by politicians who ruled against us and dictators such as Napoleon Bonaparte. A timewaster or worse . Hope this helps as to your decision. Agape; February 4, 2011 12:12 PM

Brandon said...: He's going under Brett Matthew-Thesis now...

I kindly declined a few times, and he continues to push and pose as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.; February 6, 2011 4:24 PM

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What Scientologists Say About Scientology. And Scientology's own Bethel. Gotta see this.

by whereami in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mks-u0q467u .

i think the wts has met their match.

i'd like to see what the jw's would says about this.

VIII

Very similar to JWs. Big difference is the clothing. They are allowed to blend into the surroundings. JWs are made to stand out--similar to Mormons.

Creepy overall. Amazing that with all the available info on cults etc., they are sucked in.