Posts by truthlover

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They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

by RayPublisher in

well i figured i should give you all an update.

they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

truthlover

I noted you addressed your letter to Dear Sir/Madam..... un un -- no women allowed!

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They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

by RayPublisher in

well i figured i should give you all an update.

they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

Maybe this has been covered but you said she kicked you out of the house? How did that happen? In Canada that would be desertion even under stressful conditions. She may need the house for the kids, but you are the bread winner I would suspect and is your name on the mortage?

Do you support her and the kids monetarily, and keeping the mortgage up to date.. Did you visit the lawyer and get a court date to prove you are supporting her and the kids and you want visitation 50/50? Does she work too? If so you have as much right to the kids as she does. You have not committed a crime against the kids, only left your faith system... in the eyes of the law, I dont think they recognize that, or should not as the state and religion should not mix..

TL

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My new worries about my mom-Suicide?

by JWdaughter in

i love my jw mom.

we have had issues and struggles, but she loves me, i love her and we tolerate a lot of things we differ about because of that love.. you may remember my dad died a little over 11 years ago, and my mom took to a lot of drinking and she was very depressed.

i thought she would just die of despair or drink herself dead or drive drunk.. she has calmed down on the depression and i i know she still drinks too much, but i think it is a little more ocntained.

truthlover

JWDaughter:

Dont despair too early. Over the time since your dad died, there has been a great change in how they are treating lung cancer.

I personally have an aunt who had her left lung operated on and that was 7 years ago, she is still with us, her oxygen levels are less but she stills shops, enjoys company, good food...the lung was removed.

ANother cousin again had his lung removed.. he has gone on to up north, returned home, working, that was 8 years ago

So its not all bad, just the shock, something like PTSD -- tell mom to look at all avenues and not to worry about the biopsy... it is uncomfortable but they have to know what type it is to treat it... time have changed dramatically in the cancer field. Her actions right now could probably be due to the fact she is so depressed, she will need some help thru that -the dr should be giving her something to help her but not in a great quantity, should she really want to commit suicide. Probably 10 pills every 10 days or so..

TL

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Court Proposes Reducing Puntives to $8,610,000, Condition on Candace's Accepting Amount - Otherwise, New Trial Re Punitives

by DNCall in

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truthlover

Don't see my post so..

is this case setting a precedent in that the congregation OR is it only the elders , that pay the 13%??

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Court Proposes Reducing Puntives to $8,610,000, Condition on Candace's Accepting Amount - Otherwise, New Trial Re Punitives

by DNCall in

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truthlover

Is this case setting a precedent that now congregations or is it just the elders involved in this case, are to pay the 13%? I am a little confused on this point, if anyone can expalin, thank you

TL

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sisters wearing pants/trousers?

by twinkletoes in

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my sister-in-law has recently gone back to the org :-(.

she has been wearing trousers (pants to us members ) now she has been told to expect a shepherding call from one of the elders about her style of dress!.

has anyone any good ideas or even scriptural comments that she could use.. .

truthlover

In one of the dramas I think it was this year -- my memory is not too good as I dont listen half time but during the Family study portion a sister was wearing slacks,pants, whatever which kind of took me back.. apparently its ok then, but not for the meetings where we are to show respect?? I dont really mind that as it is a time to dress up and use clothes I dont normally use - mostly I am in slacks, shorts, etc... so when I get a chance to doll up, thats what I do anyway and NO you cant win this one -- harken back to recent WT's where the mom is in an apron in the kitchen.... make me gag and then another pict where the father is studying with their two boys and she again is in the background, in the kitchen with an apron on-- I thought that was representing a Family study - yet the mother was not in the study???

There is no bending on this as far as I can see... its a shame, she should just go as an interested person, yet down the road things will definitely change...

Lonliness can cause a lot of heartache and as you get older, there is no one to turn too... even if she came back, she would still be alone, even if she wore a skirt... a single woman without a man on her arm is just not " worthy" unless she has pioneered all her life... Thats the facts. Just ask any single mother, widow, woman...

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Is Today's Jehovah's Witness Religion The Same As It Was When You Were A Member?

by minimus in

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in my day, you were proud to be a jw!

you knew you'd get "persecution" and it was all good.

when you abstained from blood, you read the ingredients of a candy bar!

truthlover

Altho I am not commenting much, I have to totally agree with Balsamass and Ynot to the point of tears almost. They have touched on a lot of points re changes.

Those were the days when you visited on sundays for lunch or dinners with folks, sat around the table and openly discussed various points of the talk or the tower and didn't have any fear of someone looking sideways to lable you as spiritually sick or humm, close to apostate material.

The assemblies with the meals, everyone pitching in and having a great time, trucking in the portable kitchen materials, servers - yes, it was a lot of work and they used the excuse to get rid of it all so we could all sit in the auditoriums and hear the programs. This at the time they always had speakers placed accordingly to all to hear, kitchen prep- areas... We all knew it was a massive effort but hey, the US Army would visit just to see how good JW's were at feeding thousands in 2 hours!!! At least we set some examples...and there was good fun doing it!

there were the picnics by a lake where the kids had a good time with their parents - forget the technology - visits all the time by everyone, seems like today, no one gets a call unless they are away from meetings for months.. could be dead by that time- nowadays, its get togethers at wedding and funerals...

I was proud to be a JW, and for that paid with most of my family as they were not in the truth, now they are gone and we are standing on an island waiting..... for the next shoe to drop- for more changes to be made, for what some men in NY will direct who have taken the place of Jesus and made themselves our mediator cause we are not of the world that Jesus said he was dying for...to know that the word generation means there could be no end to this system in our time, yet be told that its "here" --"just around the corner"- I am not a doubter that something is coming, and soon it will be 100 years in earthtime that Jesus is supposed to have been ruling from the heavens - a date that was bumped up from 1874 when his rule was to have begun -- but I truly believe that as the world continues to hang on by its fingertips, it could be a long time yet

The perceived stability is gone and replaced with unknowing instability that borders on insanity- and when you throw in a belief system with it, we are still captured

Oh there is so much more but it has all been beaten to death -the only thing is it is good to get it off your chest once in awhile..

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June 2012 WT - Feet and toes

by truthlover in

i was cruising around last month and saw a review of this article - but cannot remember where it was shown that the picture of the feet/toes was crushed in earlier mags.. can anyone help?

i searched under the mag but cant locate exactly where it was shown years ago.. .

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truthlover

thanks WTW -- I am trying to get it thought someones head that this is not the first time the society had shown this and had a different explanation..

LQ - thanks for the info, will check it out and see if I still have one

Bobbi

by truthlover in

sorry - new to pm ing .

u will have to tell me how to do it.

thanks.

truthlover

Sorry - new to pm ing

U will have to tell me how to do it

Thanks

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The "30 Other Lands" in the Worldwide Report - revealed!

by cedars in

i've just uploaded the third article in my four-part "under the microscope" series - looking at the society's claims to be god's sole channel with mankind.

a link is below:.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/under-the-microscope-the-watch-tower-societys-claims-to-divine-direction-part-3.

truthlover

Cedars:

I'll start with the Lands Under Ban map and if I can print that one, I wil try the other

Thanks again for all your work! A lot of info to be reviewed and entered by you..

Thanks again

I am signing off now but will be back on later.. will check back for your ans