i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
To use a theoretical analogy .......
Lets say the great of day Armageddon did come and you witnessed fire raining down on a group non Christians lets say Muslims (men,woman and children) and you saw them screaming and crying as they were being burnt alive would still hold that the gods Jesus and Yahweh were gods of love ?
this particular question or evaluation of the people who are participating jws has come up before in debate.
the more one deeply analyzes this the answer usually comes up in the affirmative yes.
when you consider the fact that jws members will abandon their own family, go as far as kill themselves under the direction of these men, it really confirms just how deep the mental and conscious indoctrination these men have gone.. .
The precarious and damaging concept of believing and obeying in corrupt ignorant men running their own religoius publishing house.
i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
Finkelstein, Jehovah God will send Jesus and the angels for that job.
So god is still a god of love when he sends his son and angels to burn people alive killing off most of humanity .
When he said he wouldn't kill people by drowning humanity like he did in Noah's flood, that's a indication of an act of love for sure.
Yes that would make all all logical and rational sense.
i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
The god of the ancient Hebrews (YHWH) murdered innocent people within his own chosen civilization as well other civilizations who had worshiped other gods.
Yes and he's going to murder the majority of humanity once again burn them alive soon according to some worshipers such as the JWS.
So is this a god of love ?
this particular question or evaluation of the people who are participating jws has come up before in debate.
the more one deeply analyzes this the answer usually comes up in the affirmative yes.
when you consider the fact that jws members will abandon their own family, go as far as kill themselves under the direction of these men, it really confirms just how deep the mental and conscious indoctrination these men have gone.. .
This particular question or evaluation of the people who are participating JWS has come up before in debate. The more one deeply analyzes this the answer usually comes up in the affirmative yes.
When you consider the fact that JWS members will abandon their own family, go as far as kill themselves under the direction of these men, it really confirms just how deep the mental and conscious indoctrination these men have gone..
Lying corrupt charlatans mentally controlling people for their own sustenance, power, money and self glorifying identity, which in reality manifests itself as a blight against the health and welfare of humanity.
an poignant question which might make a few jws a bit uncomfortable.. the words of jesus said that no one knows of the time of his return not the ancient israelites or the first era christians and jesus admonished those who would set a time upon god's own sacred time.. words spoken by jesus that certain men failed to adhere to who self proclaimed preachers of the gospel.. the executive leaders of the watchtower corporation (gb) have said that they were the faith slave to jesus fulfilling his instructions to spread the word of the new system of things.
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yet over the past 140 years the wts and the men who have been running that organization have been endeavoring false prophets, selling a tainted corrupt version of the gospel through the literature these men published.
There is no question the men who built up the WTS/JWS were looking out for themselves in their endeavors, to lure people to the literature and the organization which they used tactics of coercion, exploitation and manipulation .
The American government opened the door for these men to do just that.
an poignant question which might make a few jws a bit uncomfortable.. the words of jesus said that no one knows of the time of his return not the ancient israelites or the first era christians and jesus admonished those who would set a time upon god's own sacred time.. words spoken by jesus that certain men failed to adhere to who self proclaimed preachers of the gospel.. the executive leaders of the watchtower corporation (gb) have said that they were the faith slave to jesus fulfilling his instructions to spread the word of the new system of things.
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yet over the past 140 years the wts and the men who have been running that organization have been endeavoring false prophets, selling a tainted corrupt version of the gospel through the literature these men published.
Thanks for your comments all.
As I've said before the leaders of the Watchtower Corporation were all novice bible theologians who just happened to run their own publishing house.
Most of the doctrine they created were devised and used to enhance the proliferation of their literature they wrote and published, they were simply crooked and corrupt charlatans.
i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
If the economy remains closed more people will die from suicide and starvation than Coronavirus would ever kill.
I think what what this statement is saying is that people who lose their jobs and are starting to lose their homes and possessions, could start a trend of suicides out of hopelessness, particularly in countries like Italy where that country was hit especially hard.
i was just watching this on you tube, about the growth of the lds church.
i think these numbers may support a number of theories that have been discussed on here.
(1) the jws are bigger as a religious organisation.. (2) jw membership is more engaged, as well as, more ethnically diverse.. (3) wt is been honest with its counting.
Just because Mormons men and woman, dont go out door to door proselytizing doesn't mean they are not registered and accounted church going Mormons.
That's the point your missing.
You could say the JWS have more publishers theoretically, that doesn't mean they have an equal amount of practicing members than what the Mormon faith has.
i was just watching this on you tube, about the growth of the lds church.
i think these numbers may support a number of theories that have been discussed on here.
(1) the jws are bigger as a religious organisation.. (2) jw membership is more engaged, as well as, more ethnically diverse.. (3) wt is been honest with its counting.
Ive always maintained there isn’t a lot of differences in numbers between the two faiths.
Wrong there are 1.2 million JWS in the US, there are 6.5 million Mormons in the US.
The differences between the two religions is that the JWS are spread out over many countries where the LDS is not.
Mormons have 15 million world wide.
Being that the JWS have been proselytizing door to door for new members since 1935 it should be accepted the JWS growth rate over all is an utter failure in luring in new members to the religion.
